Your closest friendnt Posted April 23, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Butero said: I said it is filed with false doctrine, not that everything is false. The Mormons believe Jesus is the Son of God. I don't know about the Mormons . I have not celebrated Christmas with them. I am not a Catholic, but if I had children I would rather see them as Catholics, practicing or not practicing than not believing in anything . Better with faith in Jesus CHRIST and confused than not having faith in Jesus CHRIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 23, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Butero said: Why would you be faced with that as your only options? Raise them in a good Bible-believing church or have a home church or Bible study. Train them up in the way they should go. It is not like it is RCC or atheism. I accept your suggestion is good, and hope they don't leave just for the pleasure of this world. I tell them volunteer some of your time , this way they are occupied of doing something good , which it means they are occupied with something good, and less time for self and the love of this world, more for the people of this world, if Jesus wants them diferent he will watch over them, in their time. They are not ready to do both, they are dedicated to their carriers. I pray for them, but I don't want to turn into a nugger, a bitter soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted April 24, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: Not everything is false doctrine The believe in the birth of Jesus Christ according to the Gospels. Actually, not quite. They teach his mother was sin -less... that such was essential so that Jesus could be born sinless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 24, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 hours ago, brakelite said: Actually, not quite. They teach his mother was sin -less... that such was essential so that Jesus could be born sinless. This is a question that is asked to be discuss. We leave the Catholics out , we just discuss this our selfs. What is the prerequisite for Jesus to be born sinless. Is anyone born sinless. Sinless within the clean people- not within the Gentile inheritance-but within the inheritance of the Law of Moses Let's give it a twist, we are looking for two things, when we say "life", we must have to things in mind within "life", The physical life and the spiritual life and the Inheritance at birth. What is a more specific question? For Jesus his spiritual inheritance and his physical inheritance, What is this question about "sinless" mother. His mother Myriam had the righteousness of the Law. Did she not? That's what was required of them to have the righteousness of the Law. There is one question to add, She was from the seed of Aaron . how do we solve this question, sinless is not the right question. What was the righteousness and the "life" of his mother at conseption? Or do you want to ask at birth? Not so simple. the Catholics believe that Jesus is the Christ. And he is the life and the way to the Father and Heaven is his inheritance. That he had to go first before any other man, to open the way for man in his name to go to Heaven. They believe Jesus died for the forgiveness for our sins, and we are partakers of his LIFE. And we Judge but at the end and at any time Jesus is the Judge of all and all things. Does not matter the color of the groups doctrines. Faith in him is above all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted April 25, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: They believe Jesus died for the forgiveness for our sins, and we are partakers of his LIFE. I believe you need to do some more research, and discover what they truly believe. They may often speak the same words the Protestant speaks, but what they mean is quite different. Take the agreement between the Lutherans and the Catholics in 1999 as an example. The Joint Declaration on Justification by Faith. Do you really believe that Lutherans and Catholics now fully agree on Justification by Faith? BTW the so called immaculate conception is intimately linked to the Catholic view of justification and ultimate salvation. Take great care when attempting to claim that Catholics believe and teach the same as protestants. The council of Trent placed an Anathema on all who would believe that justification was by Faith alone. Rome still believes Trent is infallible papal dogma. Thus the agreement so called between Lutherans and Catholics is a capitulation that not all Protestantism is willing to surrender to. A capitulation by the Lutherans...A compromise to truth. Edited April 25, 2018 by brakelite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted April 25, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 4/24/2018 at 5:23 AM, Your closest friendnt said: This is a question that is asked to be discuss. We leave the Catholics out , we just discuss this our selfs. What is the prerequisite for Jesus to be born sinless. Is anyone born sinless. Sinless within the clean people- not within the Gentile inheritance-but within the inheritance of the Law of Moses Let's give it a twist, we are looking for two things, when we say "life", we must have to things in mind within "life", The physical life and the spiritual life and the Inheritance at birth. What is a more specific question? For Jesus his spiritual inheritance and his physical inheritance, What is this question about "sinless" mother. His mother Myriam had the righteousness of the Law. Did she not? That's what was required of them to have the righteousness of the Law. There is one question to add, She was from the seed of Aaron . how do we solve this question, sinless is not the right question. What was the righteousness and the "life" of his mother at conseption? Or do you want to ask at birth? Not so simple. the Catholics believe that Jesus is the Christ. And he is the life and the way to the Father and Heaven is his inheritance. That he had to go first before any other man, to open the way for man in his name to go to Heaven. They believe Jesus died for the forgiveness for our sins, and we are partakers of his LIFE. And we Judge but at the end and at any time Jesus is the Judge of all and all things. Does not matter the color of the groups doctrines. Faith in him is above all. What is the prerequisite for Jesus to be born sinless. Is anyone born sinless. CHIEF, JESUS was born sinless. The thing is he was born in the same flesh we all have , YET HE , unlike us , NEVER SINNED ONCE. Say it with me. JESUS NEVER SINNED . He had the same flesh we do , thus he was tempted in all points , YET HE without SIN , HE NEVER sinned once . the temptations NEVER overcame HIM once . not once . HE did what no man woman could do . HE overcame all . Even at death HE overcame HE who had the power over death , satan . PS, we don't heed ROME , but if its makes you feel any better , we don't heed any one who preaches contrary to Christ , and that includes a lot of other churches too. ITS HIGH TIME we follow ONLY CHRIST and have no part in the evil works of the all inclusive religion being built . JESUS ONLY to the end . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,854 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said: What is the prerequisite for Jesus to be born sinless. Is anyone born sinless. CHIEF, JESUS was born sinless. The thing is he was born in the same flesh we all have , YET HE , unlike us , NEVER SINNED ONCE. Say it with me. JESUS NEVER SINNED . He had the same flesh we do , thus he was tempted in all points , YET HE without SIN , HE NEVER sinned once . the temptations NEVER overcame HIM once . not once . HE did what no man woman could do . HE overcame all . Even at death HE overcame HE who had the power over death , satan . PS, we don't heed ROME , but if its makes you feel any better , we don't heed any one who preaches contrary to Christ , and that includes a lot of other churches too. ITS HIGH TIME we follow ONLY CHRIST and have no part in the evil works of the all inclusive religion being built . JESUS ONLY to the end . All the Jewish children were born sinless. And were born to the Lord, that's their inheritance, unless they were not sircumsize. They were not Judge by the Law till the age of accountability. All the women were the same, as Elisabeth and as Miriam. JESUS had the Life of God, he was born with the LIFE, and he die with the LIFE, How can he have the Life of God, and be born with the Life, and with him the LIFE enter our world. The one who had the Life from the beginning and gave of his Life to the first man Adam it was the Lord God, the CHRIST to be and be born as Jesus and to enter our world as a new born in Bethlehem. Jesus life starts from Bethlehem, but before that he was the creator of all, the Lord God of Abraham. They don't exist at the same time. When Jesus appeared, the Lord God is no where to be found, because he left everything to be Jesus the CHRIST. Before the foundation of the world , the CREATOR was predistine to be the Christ the Savior of the world. Only he had the Life, only he was eligible. Jesus did not disobey God his FATHER, like Adam disobey his Father in the Garden. Jesus will fall like the first Adam, and loose his life - the life of God in him- only if he disobey God and did not go to the Cross among other things to shed the blood of the new covenant. .Abraham's son Isaac could not give the blood of the Covenant of Life. But Abraham show the day of the CHRIST, the day God will Provide a lamb that will provide the blood of the Covenant of Life, and a Heavenly inheritance. JESUS knew that was the reason he had come in this world. Jesus disobey the Law, but that was ok for him, because not only he had the righteousness of God, but at the same time he was the Lord of the Sabath. What does it mean to be the Lord of the Sabath? It means that the Lord -Emanuel- is the same as the Lord of the Sabath. Who left everything, the scriptures say - he empty him self of everything to be conceived by the Holy Spirit by Miriam , he brought nothing with him , only the LIFE of God. He humble him self, to be just like any Jewish boy, and start from the beginning. Andthe Heavenly Father his God exaulted exaulted him and gave him a name above every other name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted April 26, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: All the Jewish children were born sinless. Psalms 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted April 26, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.33 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted April 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: All the Jewish children were born sinless. And were born to the Lord, that's their inheritance, unless they were not sircumsize. They were not Judge by the Law till the age of accountability. All the women were the same, as Elisabeth and as Miriam. JESUS had the Life of God, he was born with the LIFE, and he die with the LIFE, How can he have the Life of God, and be born with the Life, and with him the LIFE enter our world. The one who had the Life from the beginning and gave of his Life to the first man Adam it was the Lord God, the CHRIST to be and be born as Jesus and to enter our world as a new born in Bethlehem. Jesus life starts from Bethlehem, but before that he was the creator of all, the Lord God of Abraham. They don't exist at the same time. When Jesus appeared, the Lord God is no where to be found, because he left everything to be Jesus the CHRIST. Before the foundation of the world , the CREATOR was predistine to be the Christ the Savior of the world. Only he had the Life, only he was eligible. Jesus did not disobey God his FATHER, like Adam disobey his Father in the Garden. Jesus will fall like the first Adam, and loose his life - the life of God in him- only if he disobey God and did not go to the Cross among other things to shed the blood of the new covenant. .Abraham's son Isaac could not give the blood of the Covenant of Life. But Abraham show the day of the CHRIST, the day God will Provide a lamb that will provide the blood of the Covenant of Life, and a Heavenly inheritance. JESUS knew that was the reason he had come in this world. Jesus disobey the Law, but that was ok for him, because not only he had the righteousness of God, but at the same time he was the Lord of the Sabath. What does it mean to be the Lord of the Sabath? It means that the Lord -Emanuel- is the same as the Lord of the Sabath. Who left everything, the scriptures say - he empty him self of everything to be conceived by the Holy Spirit by Miriam , he brought nothing with him , only the LIFE of God. He humble him self, to be just like any Jewish boy, and start from the beginning. Andthe Heavenly Father his God exaulted exaulted him and gave him a name above every other name. Jesus disobey the Law, but that was ok for him, because not only he had the righteousness of God, but at the same time he was the Lord of the Sabath YEAH about this , WRONG answer . JESUS did not disobey the law , HE SIMPLY FULLFILLED the law . HE did not disobey the law . Sabbath was made for the man , NOT MAN for the Sabbath . He never disobey or transgressed the law in any way , HE simply fulfilled it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted April 26, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,228 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,076 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) A mothers blood does not mix with the infants blood in the womb. They are separate. Mary was chosen to bear Christ Jesus, but Gods seed was implanted in her womb through a divine process, making Christs' blood untainted blood coming direct from God. even though Mary was chosen to bear Christ Jesus, her blood came from the genes of fallen men. Christ However came direct from God. His blood was untainted by sin. for Christ Jesus blood to be redemptive, it would have to be free from sin. It is written Christ Jesus had no sin in Him 2 Corinthians 5:21 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Edited April 26, 2018 by 1to3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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