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  1. Certainly, although such a concept was unknown to me in my early years. It is based on the misconception that the woman spoken of in Genesis 3:15 refers to Mary, whereas correct exegesis and understanding correct symbolism in prophecy reveals that the woman spoken of here is representative of the church. This error within Catholic thinking is repeated in Revelation 12 and Revelation 17. The woman in Revelation 12 being the true church, the harlot representative of an apostate church. I see no purpose in going further. If the foundation or root is error, the fruits will be also.
  2. Mary being "co redemptrix" with Christ goes way beyond is Antichrist. A vision, be it angel or any 'divine' being, we are instructed to test. The only way to do this is to compare their teachings or admonitions with the word of God. If it contradicts what has already been revealed by the Spirit of Christ through the prophets of the OT or Christ Himself or His apostles in the new, then they are lying spirits.
  3. Then there is nothing more I could possibly add.
  4. I am not offended, nor surprised you do not believe my testimony, it is what it is. The truth is is that I do not have the basics wrong. When Catholics pray to Mary or some other saint because they believe such a one has more influence with God than does Jesus, this is clear to anyone who can reason that Jesus has been replaced with a system that promotes itself , and dead people, as a mediator. I am sure that the church teaches that Jesus is the only Mediator, they cannot so openly deny the clear scripture saying so. But they can certainly practice otherwise, and teach contradictory advice in doing so. When I used to pray the rosary I had no perception whatsoever that is doing so I was displacing Jesus as the sole Mediator between my self and the Father...but regardless of what my understanding was at the time, that surely was what I, and countless millions of others were doing. I would like also to make a further particular point. Much of what goes on within Catholicism today is by demonic revelation. It is based on mysticism and superstition...taking the word of demonic apparitions and exalting them above the truths of scripture. Allow me to offer an example. Early last century an apparition, claiming to be Jesus, appeared to a certain Berthe Petit. This being said..."By confident consecration to my mother, the devotion to my heart will be strengthened and, as it were, completed." Jesus needs his mother to complete His work in us? Further, a Catholic author, Daniel Lynch reported on this in his book 'The Total Consecration'. Quote....having made such consecration, the best means to fulfil the first Friday and first Saturday devotions, to honor completely the sacred heart of Jesus and the immaculate heart of Mary and to hasten the 'triumph of the immaculate heart' (whatever that means) is to make the "Double Great Novena" requested by Jesus on August 15, 1942 of sister Maria Natalia, an Hungarian nun. This novena consists of reception of holy communion after prayer preparation and repentance, on nine consecutive first Saturdays together with and parallel to nine first Fridays with the intentions of consoling the sacred heart and the immaculate heart." comfort, soothe, quieten down, compose ╷ pacify, conciliate, assuage, appease, mollify. So if one of those Saturdays should be missed, does that mean Jesus and Mary are going to stay angry and refuse to be consoled? Are they going to continue to be upset over your sin because you failed??? Is that grace, or is it salvation by works? Is that a true reflection of Jesus's once only sacrifice for all sin? Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. That is precisely the kind of mindset I grew up with....a certain fear of God...not a godly fear of respect, but a fear of judgement and punishment...a fear of His anger, when He is NOT angry!!! God has to be appeased by penance, when He has already given His only begotten Son ---what more can we add to that to make God forgive us???!!!!...God has to be approached through Mary or one of His favorite saints because Mary has more influence. As a mother Mary knows how to talk God out of being angry. This inchrist was the kind of thinking that permeated the church when I was growing was what I was taught in the home, and it was constantly affirmed through the myriad of means by which prayer, devotion, consecration etc was redirected away from the sacrifice made on our behalf which fully and finally dealt with the sin problem by our only Savior through scapulas, rosaries, novenas, medallions, relics, parades, masses etc etc. I will continue with my former example. Another Catholic author, John Hallert, in his book "To Prevent This", wrote: "In 1934 when Sister Natalia was 33 years old, she had asked 'Jesus' to grant some special graces to souls of our times to honor the 33 years he spent on earth. On August 25, 1942,' Jesus' responded to this request of Sister Natalia with great generosity multiplying what he had already granted in his sacred heart devotion to saint Margaret Alacoque in 1690. (Obviously His death wasn't enough) He gave her 33 promises for all those who will complete a 'double great novena', as he called it. (This means going to mass and communion on the first Friday and Saturday while one is in the state of grace, in reparation for sins committed against the sacred and immaculate hearts, for nine consecutive months. ) With these promises, 'Jesus 'also gave the following instructions; "my child, look at your mother as the queen of the world. Love her and surround her with the trust of a child. I want this from you and from everyone. Behold the immaculate heart in which I have placed graces for the world nd souls. As the heavenly Father gave everything to me, in the same manner I give my victorious power over the world and sin to the immculate heart of my mother. Through my daughter, Margaret, I gave the world tremendous promises, but since my goodness is infinite, I now offer even more. :If the people wish to gain the benefits of my promises here, they must love and venerate the immaculate heart of my mother. The greatest sign of this reverence will be if they receive me in holy communion after proper preparation and repentance on nine consecutive first Saturdays prallel with the first Fridays. "Their intentions should be to console my heart togather with the immaculate heart of my mother. If someone hurts me, that person hurts my mother as well. If someone consoles me, this consolation will console my mother at the same time. My mother and I are one in love." The above was quoted from a Catholic publication that has been promulgated throughout the world since 1998. The publication is called THE MARIAN AND MEDJUGORJE CENTRE FOR PEACE NEWSLETTER. If anyone reading the above isn't sickened by the gross idolatry and antichrist ideas being promoted here, they do not have the Spirit of God leading them. The above is pure superstitious nonsense which a deluded church populace is far too ready to accept, believe, and pass on to others. IT IS NOT BIBLE RELIGION.
  5. Who was saying that statement in John 17:3 and who was He addressing.
  6. The gospel cannot be reduced down to just one or two scriptures. In the OT the gospel was also preached to Israel. This was accomplished through the sanctuary services and the sacrifices and holy days all of which prefigured Christ and the gospel.If one was to believe most of todays televangelists, one would think that the sanctuary service consisted of the death of the animal, the washing in the laver (baptism), and that's it. But the gospel goes further than Calvary. It goes further than the empty tomb. It goes all the way into the sanctuary itself, where the priests ministered the blood before the curtain, and then once a year entered into the Most Holy Place to 'cleanse the sanctuary of all the sins of the children of Israel". The above ministry in the temple by the earthly priests was the type or shadow of Christ's ministry now as our Mediator before the throne of His Father. All of this, and more, is a part of the gospel, and the gospel is incomplete without any one includes justification (the altar of sacrifice/Calvary, which provides us with our legal right to eternal life) includes sanctification (the ministry within the holy place before the showbread/bread of life; the candlestick/light of the world; altar of incense/prayers of the saints, providing us with the fitness we all need to enter heaven, receiving Christ's righteousness)...and it includes glorification which is our final meeting with Jesus when He comes with all the angels of heaven on resurrection day to take us home.
  7. What do the scriptures say? And this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ Whom Thou hast sent. John 17:3.
  8. @inchrist Again, bluster and obfuscation. It doesn't matter that I copied those pages from any particular could have been CNN or EWTN...either way it takes nothing away from the truth. The syllabus of errors promulgated by Pius whatever number he was was a fact of life. Condemning the messenger, though may be popular with other Catholic apologists, unfortunately for you doesn't alter the facts contained in the message. The syllabus of errors was gross "infallible" portrayal of extreme Catholic dogma in defense of extreme restriction of religious liberty and in defense of the church's so-called God-given right to persecute all whom she, in her arrogance and self importance , deem "heretic". It was also a condemnation against any and all secular authorities who would dare claim authority over the church. The hiding of various criminals over the centuries in the Vatican or among the Swiss guards , including fraudsters (aka chairman of the Vatican Bank wanted for fraud by countless countries) , pedophiles (way too many to mention), and assassins (aka Abraham Lincoln's murderer), thus protecting their own against civil law, is arrogance in the absolute. But of course, you will no doubt defend this as being quite appropriate. Finally, my pointing out that the reformers were ex-Catholic priests, was not a defense of their wrongs, nor was it a condemnation of Catholicism per se. They shall each answer for their abuses of authority, just as everyone else will, Catholic Protestant or otherwise. I mentioned it not to lay blame on the church, but as a reasonable explanation for their behavior. They had been taught that such persecutions were entirely justifiable...they were wrong. Just as the Vatican is wrong today for not publicly and with heartfelt repentance completely eradicating all such teachings from its books. And condemning all her theologians, past and present, such as Thomas Aquinas and Augustine, for teaching it and practicing it. BTW, I am not ignorant of Catholicism as you would attempt to make out. I was a dedicated committed Catholic into my twenties. Educated throughout my young life in Catholic institutions. My rejection of Catholicism today is not based on what you folk like to claim ignorance of Catholc culture and/or Protestant bias.
  9. Luther, Calvin, and most other reformers, were all brought up by, raised, and educated in Catholic schools, and universities, and graduated from Catholic seminaries. They became priests, observed the corruptions and hypocrisy in the church, but did not seek to begin new churches, but simply to 'reform' that church they knew and loved. That their leaders refused, was not the reformers' fault, nor was it because they taught heresy. The reason for the reformation was because Catholic prelates, priests, bishops, and rulers of the church refused to repent of their sins an hypocrisies. Then the Lutherans persecuted the Calvinists. The Calvinists persecuted the Presbyterians. And so it continued until it was realized that all must be granted religious liberty...that is the freedom to make mistakes and practice their religion according to conscience, without fear of persecution. Being brought up and raised and taught Catholic ways, it took a while for Protestants to realize that even persecution for observing religious practice other than orthodox, was itself wrong. The age old practice by Catholicism to force people to submit to Roman dogma WAS ERROR, despite the arrogant pontifications by a variety of popes defending their right to enforce religious teachings on the general population, even that as late as the 19th century. And I haven't seen any official church council yet declare otherwise, until Vatican 2, which declarations on religious freedom were very much a surrender to demands from US bishops....not because the curia had a change of heart.
  10. Is there no end to you making things up? Are you serious? Read section four of the syllabus of errors, where it is declared as dogma that to believe a Bible society is not a pest in the same vein as communism and secret societies is error. (1) In the year 1215 Pope Innocent III issued a law commanding “that they shall be seized for trial and penalties, WHO ENGAGE IN THE TRANSLATION OF THE SACRED VOLUMES, or who hold secret conventicles, or who assume the office of preaching without the authority of their superiors; against whom process shall be commenced, without any permission of appeal” (J.P. Callender, Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p. 387). Innocent “declared that as by the old law, the beast touching the holy mount was to be stoned to death, so simple and uneducated men were not to touch the Bible or venture to preach its doctrines” (Schaff, History of the Christian Church, VI, p. 723). (2) The Council of Toulouse (1229) FORBADE THE LAITY TO POSSESS OR READ THE VERNACULAR TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE (Allix, Ecclesiastical History, II, p. 213). This council ordered that the bishops should appoint in each parish “one priest and two or three laics, who should engage upon oath to make a rigorous search after all heretics and their abettors, and for this purpose should visit every house from the garret to the cellar, together with all subterraneous places where they might conceal themselves” (Thomas M’Crie, History of the Reformation in Spain, 1856, p. 82). They also searched for the illegal Bibles. (3) The Council of Tarragona (1234) “ORDERED ALL VERNACULAR VERSIONS TO BE BROUGHT TO THE BISHOP TO BE BURNED” (Paris Simms, Bible from the Beginning, p. 1929, 162). (4) In 1483 the infamous Inquisitor General Thomas Torquemada began his reign of terror as head of the Spanish Inquisition; King Ferdinand and his queen “PROHIBITED ALL, UNDER THE SEVEREST PAINS, FROM TRANSLATING THE SACRED SCRIPTURE INTO THE VULGAR TONGUES, OR FROM USING IT WHEN TRANSLATED BY OTHERS” (M’Crie, p. 192). For more than three centuries the Bible in the common tongue was a forbidden book in Spain and multitudes of copies perished in the flames, together with those who cherished them. (5) In England, too, laws were passed by the Catholic authorities against vernacular Bibles. The Constitutions of Thomas Arundel, issued in 1408 by the Archbishop of Canterbury, made this brash demand: “WE THEREFORE DECREE AND ORDAIN THAT NO MAN SHALL, HEREAFTER, BY HIS OWN AUTHORITY, TRANSLATE ANY TEXT OF THE SCRIPTURE INTO ENGLISH, OR ANY OTHER TONGUE, by way of a book, libel, or treatise, now lately set forth in the time of John Wyckliff, or since, or hereafter to be set forth, in part of in whole, privily or apertly, upon pain of greater excommunication, until the said translation be allowed by the ordinary of the place, or, if the case so require, by the council provincial” (John Eadie, The English Bible, vol. 1, 1876, p. 89). Consider Arundel’s estimation of the man who gave the English speaking people their first Bible: “This pestilential and most wretched John Wycliffe of damnable memory, a child of the old devil, and himself a child or pupil of Anti-Christ, who while he lived, walking in the vanity of his mind … crowned his wickedness by translating the Scriptures into the mother tongue” (Fountain, John Wycliffe, p. 45). (6) Pope Leo X (1513-1521), who railed against Luther’s efforts to follow the biblical precept of faith alone and Scripture alone, called the fifth Lateran Council (1513-1517), which charged that no books should be printed except those approved by the Roman Catholic Church. “THEREFORE FOREVER THEREAFTER NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PRINT ANY BOOK OR WRITING WITHOUT A PREVIOUS EXAMINATION, TO BE TESTIFIED BY MANUAL SUBSCRIPTION, BY THE PAPAL VICAR AND MASTER OF THE SACRED PALACE IN ROME, and in other cities and dioceses by the Inquisition, and the bishop or an expert appointed by him. FOR NEGLECT OF THIS THE PUNISHMENT WAS EXCOMMUNICATION, THE LOSS OF THE EDITION, WHICH WAS TO BE BURNED, a fine of 100 ducats to the fabric of St. Peters, and suspension from business for a year” (Henry Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages). (7) These restrictions were repeated by the Council of Trent in 1546, which placed translations of the Bible, such as the German, Spanish, and English, on its list of prohibited books and forbade any person to read the Bible without a license from a Catholic bishop or inquisitor. Following is a quote from Trent: “…IT SHALL NOT BE LAWFUL FOR ANYONE TO PRINT OR TO HAVE PRINTED ANY BOOKS WHATSOEVER DEALING WITH SACRED DOCTRINAL MATTERS WITHOUT THE NAME OF THE AUTHOR, OR IN THE FUTURE TO SELL THEM, OR EVEN TO HAVE THEM IN POSSESSION, UNLESS THEY HAVE FIRST BEEN EXAMINED AND APPROVED BY THE ORDINARY, UNDER PENALTY OF ANATHEMA AND FINE prescribed by the last Council of the Lateran” (Fourth session, April 8, 1546, The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Translated by H.J. Schroeder, pp. 17-19). These rules were affixed to the Index of Prohibited Books and were constantly reaffirmed by popes in the 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries. These prohibitions, in fact, have never been rescinded. It is true that the Council of Trent did not absolutely forbid the reading of the Scriptures under all circumstances. It allowed a few exceptions. The priests were allowed to read the Latin Bible. Bishops and inquisitors were allowed to grant license for certain faithful Catholics to read the Scriptures in Latin as long as these Scriptures were accompanied by Catholic notes and if it was believed that these would not be “harmed” by such reading. In practice, though, the proclamations of Trent forbade the reading of the Holy Scriptures to at least nine-tenths of the people. Rome’s claim to possess authority to determine who can and cannot translate, publish, and read the Bible is one of the most blasphemous claims ever made under this sun. The attitude of 16th century Catholic authorities toward the Bible was evident from a speech Richard Du Mans delivered at Trent, in which he said “that the Scriptures had become useless, since the schoolmen had established the truth of all doctrines; and though they were formerly read in the church, for the instruction of the people, and still read in the service, yet they ought not to be made a study, because the Lutherans only gained those who read them” (William M’Gavin, The Protestant, 1846, p. 144). It is true that the Bible leads men away from Roman Catholicism, but this is only because Roman Catholicism is not founded upon the Word of God! Pope Clement VIII (1592-1605) confirmed the Council of Trent’s proclamations against Bible translations (Eadie, History of the English Bible, II, p. 112) and went even further by forbidding licenses to be granted for the reading of the Bible under any conditions (Richard Littledale, Plain Reasons Against Joining the Church of Rome, 1924, p. 91). (8) The restrictions against ownership of the vernacular Scriptures were repeated by the popes until the end of the 19th century: Benedict XIV (1740-1758) confirmed the Council of Trent’s proclamations against Bible translations (Eadie, History of the English Bible, II, p. 112) and issued an injunction “that no versions whatever should be suffered to be read but those which should be approved of by the Holy See, accompanied by notes derived from the writings of the Holy Fathers, or other learned and Catholic authors” (D.B. Ray, The Papal Controversy, p. 479). It was during the reign of Pope Pius VII (1800-1823) that the modern Bible society movement began. The British and Foreign Bible Society was formed in March 1804, the purpose being “to encourage a wider circulation of the Holy Scriptures without note or comment.” Other societies were soon created for the same exalted purpose. Germany (1804); Ireland (1806); Canada (1807); Edinburgh (1809); Hungary (1811); Finland, Glasgow, Zurich, Prussia (1812); Russia (1813); Denmark and Sweden (1814); Netherlands, Iceland (1815); America, Norway, and Waldensian (1816); Australia, Malta, Paris (1817); etc. One of the societies began distributing a Polish Bible in Poland. The Pope, instead of praising the Lord that the eternal Word of God was being placed into the hands of the multitudes of spiritually needy people, showed his displeasure by issuing a bull against Bible Societies on June 29, 1816. The Pope expressed himself as “shocked” by the circulation of the Scriptures in the Polish tongue. He characterized this practice as a “most crafty device, by which the very foundations of religion are undermined,” “a pestilence,” which he must “remedy and abolish,” “a defilement of the faith, eminently dangerous to souls.” Pope Pius VII also rebuked Archbishop Buhusz of Mohiley in Russia because of his endorsement of a newly formed Bible society (Kenneth Latourette, The Nineteenth Century in Europe, p. 448). The papal brief, dated September 3, 1816, declared that “if the Sacred Scriptures were allowed in the vulgar tongue everywhere without discrimination, more detriment than benefit would arise” (Jacobus, Roman Catholic and Protestant Versions Compared, p. 236). While taking a look at the syllabus of errors, read through numbers 19 to 38 on what is considered 'errors'. For example, 24. The Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect. -- Apostolic Letter "Ad Apostolicae," Aug. 22, 1851.
  11. The Catechism, in places , may reflect some truths of scripture. That does not make it doesn't even necessarily make it scriptural, as there are far too many statements that contradict scripture, making the whole extremely debatable. Take the above quoted statement for example, "by worshipping idols and images as God"....I would suggest that while that is correct, one needn't consider the object of worship as actually being God in order for such an act to be idolatry. One may not consider his favorite sport as a god, yet if following that sport is your whole aim in life and your life is so caught up in that sport as to make it your life's priority, then it has become an idol. It is the same with many Catholics in their reverence for Mary and/or saints. They spend more time, more dedicatory commitment, to Mary than they do for Jesus. That is idolatry.
  12. And what exactly is unbiblical here? inchrist, I have already quoted scripture that plainly and clearly states that there is only one Mediator between God and man, Christ Jesus. Not any church...not Mary or the saints....not any priesthood...not even the pope. Jesus is the sole and only Mediator appointed by God to mediate between Himself and mankind. Any interposing themselves between man and Jesus is replacing Jesus with something or someone else, and that is Antichrist. (See 500 and 473 in Strong's concordance). That said, I am not suggesting that fellowship with like-minded Christians is unimportant. That is not what this is about, and you know that don't you. Your bluster and obfuscation doesn't hide the fact that the Catholic Church hierarchy demands its church members to be obedient, loyal, and faithful to all church ordinances, sacraments, rites and rituals, because they claim that without them there is no salvation. The Protestant reformers were absolutely correct when teaching sola Christus...Christ alone. No man should allow another man to act as any sort of mediatorial agent between himself and his Savior.
  13. Part two..... Psalm 77:13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God? The sanctuary is God’s plan or blueprint or model by which man may be brought back into the presence of God. Man was lost. The sanctuary was a map for man that he may find his way home. It is God’s Plan of Salvation, His GPS if you like to re-establish man as God’s law-abiding jurists. Compare the following scriptures, and we can see how very important the sanctuary is. Exodus 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them. John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? 21 But he spake of the temple of his body. Matt. 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. The sanctuary contained the very real presence of God. When Jesus spoke of Himself as being the Door, the Light, the Bread of Life, what do you think He was referring to? Where was He getting these expressions from? John 1:1 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. What door is Jesus speaking of? It is the door to the sanctuary. Jesus walked through that door as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world to present Himself a sacrifice, holy and without blemish. We are to follow Him into the sanctuary, after His pattern. “I am the Way” He declared. “Thy Way is in the sanctuary” David said….Jesus is in the sanctuary…if we are to find our way to the Father, we must follow Jesus into the sanctuary where He is now, interceding on our behalf. I am sure most reading this recognize Jesus in the sanctuary, however, just as a refresher, I will go over again where Jesus is. beginning from the outer court, we know that Jesus came from heaven, was born into the tribe of Judah, who were camped immediately outside the door to the outer court, and thus…. As mentioned, He is the Door. John 10:1,2 Jesus is the sacrifice. Matt. 5:17 It is in Him we are to be baptized. John 4:10 Jesus is the Bread of Life. John 6:35 He is the Light of the world.John 8:12 He is our Mediator. Eph. 5:2 And He is the law personified. Matt. 5:17 Israel was delivered from Egyptian bondage (a type of the Christian deliverance from sin) in the very same pattern. Passover Lamb……..sacrifice……..1 Cor.5:7…..Exodus 12:1-6 Red Sea……..baptism…….1 Cor.10:2……Exod.14:16 Manna….Bread…..John 6:58…..Exodus 16:4 Israel chosen as a special nation to be a light to the Gentiles….Exodus 9:5,6. Moses made an intermediary (a type of Christ)….Exodus 19:9-11 Israel given the law. ….Exodus 20 Do you recognize the pattern? Are you following the Way through the sanctuary? The life of Christ was in similar vein and pattern….. Born in a stable among animals…born a living sacrifice…born to die..Luke2:7 Baptized at age 30…Matt.3:16 Led into the wilderness to be tempted which consisted of three elements 1. Change the stone to bread 2. presumptuous prayer 3. Bow in exchange for glory Matt.4:1-11 Goes on to preach and teach the law of God coupled with the grace and the mercy of God. John 14:15. Matt.9:13 Christ’s life follows the pattern even in reverse…. Descended from heaven….John 6:38 Lived by the word….John 4:34 Let His light shine….John 1:9 Lived a life of prayer….Luke 6:12 Was baptized…Matt.3:16 Was crucified….Matt.27:35 And from His sacrifice and ascension into the heavenly sanctuary…. Was sacrificed Was resurrected and purified Gave manna…. John 6:58 Ascended in order to intercede….Hebrews 7:25 Ministers among the candlesticks….Revel. 1:11-13 Judgement to begin in Most Holy Place….Revel. 11,18,19. The New Testament follows the same pattern…. The Gospels are the story of our redemption through the shed blood of Christ Acts give us the baptism of the Holy Spirit From Romans to Jude we are taught the essentials of the Christian faith 1. The word of God 2. Prayer/intercession 3. witnessing Revelation gives us insight into the throne room of God. I do hope you get the picture, and are beginning to appreciate how important it is to understand how the sanctuary is our blueprint for salvation.,for now we get to our pathway to the Father. Remember, “Thy way O God is in the sanctuary”. So what is the way to salvation? What is the full gospel? What does the sanctuary teach us as being the only Way, the only Truth, and the only Life to our ultimate salvation? We are to accept Christ’s sacrifice …..Romans 10:9 We are to be baptized….John 3:3-5 We are to eat the word….Matt. 4:4 We are to Pray….Luke 18:1 We are to let our light shine….Matt. 5:16 We are to keep God’s commandments….John 14:15 Note that our salvation does not begin and end at the cross as many today teach. Step one is not enough in order to reach the Father.The cross is only the beginning, the first step on a pathway to eternal life. The OT prophet Daniel tells of a power that would cast the sanctuary and the truths that it taught to the ground. Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Most are familiar with the parable of the wicked husbandmen found in Matthew 21. Jesus Himself declared that the responsibilities of the kingdom, that is to be a light and witness to the world, or God’s jurors, would be taken away from Israel because they rejected Him, and given to another nation who would bear the fruits. That new nation was the church. Matt.21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. 39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. 40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? 41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. 42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 1Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: The responsibilities of being a light and witness were taken up by the apostolic church. After his success in destroying Israel, Satan then focused his attention upon the church. Persecution didn’t work, but deception did. The nation of Israel, for so long Satan’s prime focus because it was the nation, or more specifically the tribe of Judah and even more specifically the family of David, that was to be the vehicle for the birth of the Messiah. Throughout the OT we see Satan’s attempts to wipe out the root, that the fruit could not result. Particularly we see this in his targeting of the family of David, and his constant temptations to false worship, knowing that God’s wrath and discipline would result in their destruction. The story of Solomon’s idolatry, the dividing of the nation, and the ensuing war between Rehoboam and Jereboam, are a glowing example. Yet God in His mercy preserved a remnant. There has always been a remnant that has been the recipients and keepers of the truth. Israel though, after rejecting Christ, were themselves rejected as God’s “chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel” (Acts 9:15) Paul, among others, were now the chosen vessel. God’s people were no longer recognized as a nation, but as a church. So take a look at history. Was Satan aware of this change in paradigm? Absolutely! He knew very well who his most dangerous foe now was. It was those who now knew the truth of God’s love as revealed in the gospels. His attacks were directed against first, God’s people, and second, against God’s word. The former religious elite of the nation of Israel were Satan’s first agents in his attacks against the church. Then pagan Rome became his chief weapon, and after the failure of violence to quell the growth of the church, raised up a false Christian edifice, began to attack the scriptures and the peoples’ access to them, and introduced a raft of false doctrines, creeds, and superstitions that had a huge effect upon the church, and literally tens of thousands were seduced and beguiled by the sophistries of the Roman clergy that inherited the thrones of the Caesars. Among the lies and falsehoods were some that specifically replaced the very truths that marked the Way through the sanctuary…the Roman church set up another sanctuary (their own) in place of the true, and re-erected the veil which effectively cut off access to God. That veil was Rome’s man-made theories and superstitions which removed Christ as the sole Mediator between God and man and replaced Him with a system of semi-pagan lies and false doctrines. Indulgences replaced Christ’s sacrifice. Sprinkling was introduced without confession or repentance. The word of God was replaced by traditions. Prayer and Christ’s mediation were replaced by the confessional. Did you know that the confessional is a box divided by a curtain? Persecution, the use of force and state legislation replaced the light of the gospel. The law of God was cast down. The 2nd commandment was removed, the 10th commandment divided to make up the ten, the 4th commandment of the Sabbath changed to Sunday. However, there is good news. The gospel was to be restored. Daniel 8:14 says… And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. The sanctuary was to be restored. God would not allow his arch-enemy to have his way in his endeavour to tamper with the jury without a fight. So God raised up loyal men of God who would declare the truth with courage and conviction, despite great opposition. The truths were to be restored, the Way opened up once again, the full gospel to be restored to the world. One by one, the truths were re-established in God’s church, and those truths broadcast and taught throughout the world. In the 1300s John Wycliffe, ‘The Morning Star of the Reformation’, translated the scriptures into the common tongue. His followers and supporters were called the Lollards. In their day, they were considered a cult, and were persecuted relentlessly by the established church. In the 1400s Martin Luther restored the truth of salvation by faith only. He restores the sacrifice of grace. Luther and his followers, the Lutherans, were considered a cult by those of his day, and were persecuted. In the 1500s John Calvin, the founder of the Presbyterians, has a great burden for prayer. He railed against the rote prayers of the established church… In the day,Presbyterians were considered a cult; they were also persecuted, by the Lutherans. In the 1600s God raised up a man by the name of John Smith. Smith restored the truth of baptism by immersion. His followers were known as Baptists…in their day they were considered a cult, and were persecuted by the Lutherans and the Presbyterians. In the 1700s John Wesley founded the Methodists. John Wesley had a great burden for evangelism: for letting the light of the gospel to shine…he preached from one end of the country to another, and even to the United States. The Methodists were considered a cult and were persecuted by the Lutherans, the Presbyterians, and the Baptists. So all the articles of furniture were restored by the beginning of the 19th century, except for one. The law of God. Daniel 8:14 said that at the end of the 2300 days and the sanctuary was to be cleansed. There are two other major time prophecies in scripture. The 70 weeks of Daniel 9, and the 1260 days/42 months/times,time, and half a time of Daniel 7:25;12:7; Revel. 11:2,3; 12:6,14; 13:5. The final article of furniture to be restored spiritually among God's people is His law. The book of Revelation declares loud and true that the remnant peope of God at the time of the second coming are commandment keeping people. See Revel.14:12 and Revel. 12:17. Perhaps now you are gaining a better appreciation for the meaning of the promised new covenant as described in Paul’s letter to the Hebrews. 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. 12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. God is now preparing a people to serve Him as law-abiding citizens in His kingdom. Witnesses in the Great Controversy between Christ and Satan, who, in agreement with all the angels in heaven, will…. Re 15:3 ……sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
  14. This admittedly is a long reply...have divided it into two parts, but I think this goes a long way in explaining Ephesians 3:10, and a few other verses as well. The following lesson is intended as a means by which the reader may gain a perspective of God’s plan of salvation that gives him an understanding of the ‘bigger picture’. The intent is to form a picture of history, of God’s purpose for mankind, and relate it all to the gospel using the Old Testament sanctuary as the model. The following is not an’ optional extra’ to the Christian faith, it is an essential understanding by which all may know that they are on the right path, for God Himself drew the plans. In order to gain this better appreciation of our way to life, we must start at the beginning. At the very beginning of the conflict between good and evil, to the place where sin and rebellion had its woeful genesis. Ezekiel 28:11 ¶ Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. The above passage from the book of Ezekiel describes the fall of Lucifer. It tells us of his exalted position in heaven, the reason for his downfall, and his future fate. It tells us that he was the “cherub that covereth”. What is that? To find out we will go first to …… Hebrews 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. We see here that the sanctuary or tabernacle in the wilderness was a copy or a small scale model of things in heaven. In that sanctuary in the wilderness that Moses built there were a number of items of furniture each one representative of a spiritual reality in heaven. I will go further into this as we progress, but in the case of the ‘cherub that covers’ we will go to Exodus 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. 20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. 21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. 22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel. Note that the cherubs on either side of the ark of the covenant had their wings spread out over the ark, ‘covering’ the mercy seat. It was upon the mercy seat between the cherubim that God rested and communed with Moses. And it was under the mercy seat within the ark that resided the two tables of the ten commandments. The ark itself represented the throne of God, and His law, the ten commandments, the foundation of His government in heaven. The heavenly law of course was a law of love, which the earthly Ten Commandments were a detailed exposition.The two cherubs were comissioned to guard the throne, to protect God’s laws. This was Lucifer’s exalted position, “until iniquity was found in thee”. Iniquity is sin…sin is transgression against God’s law. (1 John 3:4). Therefore Lucifer rebelled against the very law he was created to protect. In …. Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. .,.,.it is revealed that there was a war in heaven, and that Lucifer succeeded in deceiving 1/3 of the angels of heaven to join with him in this sin. Thus the first war was fought over the law of God. I would suggest that the last war will be fought over the same thing. The parallel passage to Ezekiel in Isaiah 14 says 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. God’s law is love. Love is the foundation to everything that is undertaken in heaven…the scriptures say that God is love. Love is essentially unselfish. Lucifer, in declaring “I will”, was directly transgressing God’s law of love. Let us not think that the angels, or even Lucifer, suddenly decided to become evil. All sides in political disputes believe they are the best for the people that they wish to serve. Each side believes they can do better than the opposition, and that the country will actually be better off if they were in power. Isaiah tells us that Lucifer wanted to be like God. So what is God like? We know that He is Holy, righteous, He is love, He is just, and He is kind. Now of course there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be holy, righteous, loving, just, and kind. The problem with Lucifer’s aims however were the means by which he wanted to obtain these attributes. I can imagine how he spoke to and deceived his fellow angels…”We don’t need a law to be holy like God”…”We are already holy. We don’t need God to tell us how to be righteous. We are already righteous without the law…we don’t need any law to tell us how to behave”. Have you ever heard this argument before? “We don’t need God’s laws in order to be like God”? “We are being changed into the image of Christ but no longer need God’s laws any more to be righteous”….”we can be holy and righteous without God telling us how to do it”? So what was the result of Lucifer’s sin? He and his angels were cast out of heaven and Lucifer is now known as Satan. But why was he just thrown out? Why didn’t God destroy him right there and then; wouldn’t that have solved the sin problem for earth? God’s laws and recommendations are mirrors of His own righteousness. In Deuteronomy 19 we find that in cases of dispute there is away by which justice can be not only done, but be “seen to be done”… 16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; 17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; 18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; 19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. And we see also that …. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: So let me ask, where were the witnesses between the conflict between Lucifer and God? The angels were on either one side or the other, so who was left to be an unbiased witness? There was no-one. Now God is just. So before passing any final judgement, God is going to ensure that the great conflict of the ages has witnesses. Note that He infers this in Ezekiel…. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Who are these kings that will ‘behold’ Satan? Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. In Genesis we are told that God gave Adam dominion…. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Who has ‘dominion’ other than kings? Note also the following… 1 Cor. 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? As kings we are called to judge angels. You can well believe that Satan understood all this when God created man to be His jury in the conflict of the ages. Interestingly, the requirements of jury service are very pertinent to our discussion. The criteria are: Little or no first-hand knowledge of the crime. Must be law-abiding citizens. Must have sound discernment between good and evil. Must not be swayed by public opinion. Now imagine if you will that you are a criminal about to be tried for grand treason against your country, and the inevitable sentence if found guilty was death. And what if you were suddenly in a position which gave you immediate and intimate access to the jury. What would you do? Bribe the jury? Very likely, in fact, we find that Satan did precisely that. Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. In other words, ‘you can be a real great judge (elohim/gods/judges) while disobeying God’s law! ‘ Thus Satan in deceiving Eve and implicating Adam, successfully tampered with the jury, making them entirely incapable of serving as God’s intended witnesses. They lost their status as law-abiding citizens, they were no longer fit for jury service. God however had a plan. That plan was to restore mankind as law-abiding citizens that once again they may be fit for the role He intended for them, kings and judges and witnesses in the conflict. That my friends is the purpose of the gospel. To be subjects of the kingdom of heaven, one must be subject to heaven’s laws. So in keeping with God’s first purpose in desiring a relationship with man and making man His witnesses, God sought Adam in the garden, and subsequently promised to make things right. After the calling of Abraham, and fast forwarding to the time of Moses, God took the next step in His implementation of His grand plan. Exodus 25:8 And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them. To bring mankind back to God, God made a “Way”.
  15. Inherent in any discussion on the trinity, is the often presumed criticism of non-trinitarians claiming that in denying the trinity, it is an automatic denial of the divinity of Christ. Now I am not what the 'orthodox' among us would call a trinitarian. I believe the same as the apostle Paul, who in the face of rampant idolatry specifically declared to a church born among idols, "that there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we in Him...." 1 Cor. 8:6 I also agree with Jesus, who said that even our eternal life depended upon our acceptance and knowledge of the one true God, saying in a prayer to His Father, "and this is life eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God...." Now of course any of you looking up the verses above would instantly recognize that there is a reference in each, to another person, Jesus Christ. So, now that we have discovered who the one true God is, (the Father), let us now see who the Bible writers say Jesus is..... Who is Jesus? Is He, as the church constantly teaches, god the son? Or is He the Son of God? Mark knew who Jesus is. Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; John knew who Jesus is. John 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. Nathanael knew who Jesus is. John 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. Peter knew who Jesus is. Matthew 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. The eunuch knew who Jesus is. Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Jesus was mocked when He was on the cross. What did they mock Him about? Matthew 27:40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. They questioned whether Jesus is the Son of God! Is this not the same as is done in the Christian denominations that believe in the trinity doctrine? Are we not saying that Jesus is not the Son of GOD by calling Him “God the Son”??? The centurion knew who Jesus is. Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. The disciples knew who Jesus is. Matthew 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. Martha knew who Jesus is. John 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. What did Jesus say about Himself? John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? What blasphemy are we doing by calling Jesus “God the Son” when we have no Biblical basis in doing this. “God the Son” and the Son of GOD are not the same. “God the Son” is a title, and this does not make Jesus the Son of God. Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; John 3:17-18 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Jesus called Himself the “the only begotten Son of God”. John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. In the Bible we see that we must confess that Jesus is the Son of God. 1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. John 6:69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. John 9:35-38 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. John 11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved. The only name that can save us is Jesus the Son of God. And in case you are wondering, there is no way a coequal co-eternal God as in God the Son be any kind of son other than metaphorical. But ask yourself. Did the eternal Father give a metaphor to die for mankind, or did He give mankind the greatest gift possible, His only literal begotten Son? When I read John 3:16 that informs me that God gave His only begotten Son, I believe it. I believe God had a Son to give. That said, I do not believe as taught by orthodox Christianity that the Son is of the same "age" as the Father. Such an understanding simply turns Jesus into an unbegotten being the same as the Father, which in turn completely denies the personality of both Father and Son, which John tells us is Antichrist. What is so difficult in simply accepting what the Bible says, and not making assumptions on subjects and areas about which the scriptures remain silent?