RockyMidnight Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, brujaq said: I must've been talking about another new one, . Sorry Rock There are three versions that I know of, each with a different view of a time relationship. No need to be sorry at all Brother! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, siegi91 said: Yes, well. the problem I have is that free will is hugely challenged by these ontologies. For instance, the idea that the universe preserves information, does not give any space to the introduction of novelty. According to what we know today, the configuration of bits I am causing on computers by writing this post, was in principle deductible by the microstate of the Universe millions years before my birth. So, what was my freedom? I did not have any. siegi That may be true Siege91. Have to give that one more thought. Oh, there is no millions of years ago. Everything is in the "spotlight" which is always "now". BTW,. you could have chosen not to write with these "bits"! Cheers!!! Edited July 30, 2018 by RockyMidnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brujaq Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 223 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, siegi91 said: Good for you siegi Did you know that time will come to an end , better start working on a theory for that soon.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, brujaq said: Did you know that time will come to an end , better start working on a theory for that soon.. We know form Einstein that time is not objective. Therefore, I am not sure what it means to say that something not objective will come to an end. sieglinde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, brujaq said: Did you know that time will come to an end , better start working on a theory for that soon.. Then what is Eternity Brujaq? Cheers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Just now, siegi91 said: Duplicate Edited July 30, 2018 by siegi91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brujaq Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 223 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, RockyMidnight said: Then what is Eternity Brujaq? Cheers!!! Eternal supernatural existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: That may be true Siege91. Have to give that one more thought. Oh, there is no millions of years ago. Everything is in the "spotlight" which is always "now". BTW,. you could have chosen not to write with these "bits"! Cheers!!! Could I have? I am not sure. By the way, I am sure we would be very famous if we could prove that we can introduce novelty in the physical state of the Universe that is not deducible by prior states. That is law -1. The most fundamental of all, and it comes before all others. Hawking challenged it. And he lost. siegi Edited July 30, 2018 by siegi91 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, siegi91 said: Somehow, I see a "choice" in these duplicates!!! Cheers Siegi91!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegi91 Posted July 30, 2018 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 12 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: Somehow, I see a "choice" in these duplicates!!! Cheers Siegi91!!! Yes, sorry. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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