Yo, am I still "saved" or whatever its called?

[slimshadyJB]

Slim, there are many today that are claiming to be a christian that aren't. They at one time in their lives gave lip service to God that many they confessed Jesus as Lord only with their mouths but the scripture also says in Romans 10:9 that if we confess with our mouths and believe in our hearts we will be saved. Your spiritual condition  is between God and yourself God knows you better than yourself and He knows if you are serious in your commitment to Him. There are people setting in church pews today that will not see heaven. That statement riles some in the church but God's word is true there are goats sitting in with the sheep in our churches also works will not save you we can be good all we want to and the fact of the matter is if we mess up just one time thats why we need Jesus to save us just one sin would warrant judgement in our case just as the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. When Jesus truly saves you you want be the same i know when He saved me He changed me the things i use to do listen to and watch I could no longer do them and enjoy them without God convicting me. So Slim you need to examine yourself and ask yourself was i serious when i surrendered my life to God or was it just lip-service

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Reading your post all of a sudden made me nervous. Really, sometimes I think I'm a Christian, and then I get this feeling I'm not a true one and it goes back and forth. How do I know?! I said that I believed in Jesus and confessed and did everything..but to some people here it seems that believing is not enough. You have to completely change in some, and I don't know how to do that. I was really serious when I first tried to become a christian..but then I drift away from christianity every couple months and it gets irritating. I end up always starting over! So really I'm just confused right now.

[Kabowd]

After getting saved you have to be born again.

Scripture? Getting saved is being born again.

The Bible says that unless we are born again off water and the spirit we do not get to the Kingdom.

Water being water baptism.

Sorry, incorrect. The water being referred to is the physical birth which is accompanied by water (see the Greek word "gennao"). This is why Nicodemus was confused when Christ told him this in John 3, because Nic was thinking physical re-birth...but Christ was speaking of spiritual re-birth.

Now if you buy a car.

Sure the car is yours.

Unless you have a routine to maintain it.

Unless you buy gas for it.

Unless you pay the instalments for it.

Unless you pay your fines and pay for parking.

You will render the act of buying the car redundant.

If you need to do all these just for your car.

Does it not then makes sense that you will have to put a conscious effort, into your eternal Salvation in Jesus Christ.

You have just equated the gift of salvation and the purchase of his soul by Jesus Christ...to the purchase and maintainence of a car. Bad analogy. You have just taught a works-based salvation.

Faith is what we belive.

Grace is what is given by God.

Sorry, wrong again. Grace is how we are saved through faith ....which is the gift of God. Read Ephesians 2:8,9 again. Niether faith nor grace are of ourselves.

How then can one say that Faith is not from us or anything we do ?

Paul said it.

"For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you.

." Romans 12:3

"Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ." Romans 10:17

God gives us faith, and our faith grows by hearing and meditating on the word of God.

Is not Hearing something you/we do ?

Does it happen without us initiating it ?

No then yes. See the conversion of Lydia in Acts 16. Verse 14 says, "The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul's message". Also, it's the Holy Spirit that gives us ears to hear the message. If faith is anything to do with ourselves or what we can do, it nullifies the entire point. If you can muster it up on your own, why would you need Christ or the Holy Spirit?

I am saying Grace comes from God, Faith comes from our actions.

Which is wrong. You have it backwards. Our works are BORN OUT OF FAITH. Our actions follow and prove our faith...not the other way around.

Obedience comes after the heart change.

The problem with slimshady (and anyone who doesn't stay in God's word) is that he isn't feeding his spirit. His spirit is starving. The other thing.....if you don't have a hunger for the word and to spend time with God..this is cause for concern. Those who are His..WILL produce fruit...and WILL have good works. These things don't get you saved or even aid you in salvation...but they PROVE that you are saved to the world.

Remember, works and good deeds are not things we do to show to God, He already knows who are His. These things are to be evidences to the world.

[WayneB]

Sister Tess,

I enjoy reading your posts so very much. Much wisdom is reflected in them. I'm so very glad that you are still around.

May God Bless you richly,

Wayne

[Kabowd]

Thank you Mr. Wayne. Haha.."Sister Tess" makes me sound like a Nun.

[WayneB]

"Sister Tess" makes me sound like a Nun. 

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Now, there will be Nun of that!

[Iryssa]

"Sister Tess" makes me sound like a Nun.

[Guest Freshoil]

RECEIVE CHRIST.

We must trust Jesus Christ and receive Him by personal invitation.

THE BIBLE SAYS...

Behold I stand at the door and knock.If anyone hears My voice and opens the door,I will come in to him and dine with him,and he with Me. Revelation 3:20.

But as many as received Him,to them He gave the right to become children of God,even to those who believe in His name John 1:12.

...if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead,you will be saved. Roman 10:9.

Get serious with God. God willn't be mocked.

This is just beginning of a wonderful new life in Christ.To deepen this relationship you should:

1.Read your Bible every day to know Christ better.

2.Talk to God in prayer every day.

3.Tell others about Christ.

4.Worship,fellowship,and serve with other Christians in a Church where Christ is preached.

5.As Christ's representative in a needy world,demonstrate your new life by your love and concern for others.

GOD BLESS YOU.

[GentlesoundGS]

Hello Slim ShadeyJB,

I want you to know you are still my brother in christ and you are still saved.

There is a scripture I would like you to remember to help you remember you are loved and wanted.

2 Corinthians 5:17

Therefore, if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

God is not limited to our boundries. He works by putting reminders out for us to remember His love for us.

He knows Satan will speak a message to you, causing you to doubt you are saved by love for eternity so you will forget the reasoning God and you worked out together to let Him love and save you.

I suggest you spend some personal time, reserved in prayer to talk to Him personally so you can let God into more of your life and thinking as He will lead you through having a holy relationship with Him

Satan does not want you to have this. Enjoy what wonderful things You are about in Christ.

In His Love,

GentlesoundGS

[mrs]

Sister Tess,

I enjoy reading your posts so very much.  Much wisdom is reflected in them.    I'm so very glad that you are still around. 

May God Bless you richly,

Wayne

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I second that.