Unfailing Presence Posted September 14, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2018 11 hours ago, creativemechanic said: was discussing the birth rate issue in our country with a friend the other day. This is also a problem identified among certain Christian denominations while other religions e.g. Muslims and Rastafarian have swarms of kids Anothe reason identified was that people now having access to contraceptives and have a better standard of living before will prefer to have smaller families and use the more money and resources that can stretch more to enjoy life more (is the family can have more stuff and do more things now that the money stretches further) The other person agreedcand considered it as selfishness ie we want less kids so we can have more for ourselves. what do you think anoutvtuat perspective. I don't know if it is true or not but I have heard it said that people in the more " developed " countries in general are less fertile , and that may be a factor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 11 hours ago, creativemechanic said: was discussing the birth rate issue in our country with a friend the other day. This is also a problem identified among certain Christian denominations while other religions e.g. Muslims and Rastafarian have swarms of kids Another reason identified was that people now having access to contraceptives and have a better standard of living before will prefer to have smaller families and use the more money and resources that can stretch more to enjoy life more (is the family can have more stuff and do more things now that the money stretches further) The other person agreed and considered it as selfishness i.e. we want less kids so we can have more for ourselves. what do you think about that perspective. It's always easy to tell other people how to live when you aren't the one impacted. I've seen these "quiver full" type cults that have over a dozen kids... so many that mom and dad can't even handle them so they force the older kids to be surrogate parents. Having many children can also adversely affect the woman's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Unfailing Presence said: I don't know if it is true or not but I have heard it said that people in the more " developed " countries in general are less fertile , and that may be a factor . People in developed countries have greater access to birth control. But it is also proven in numerous studies that the more education a person has, they later they get married and the less interested they are in *ahem* intimate recreational activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted September 14, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,565 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,045 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted September 14, 2018 52 minutes ago, LadyKay said: I am in no way going against anyone's calling. ??? Never thought you were. But as to the need for a cartoon- it's all yours if one comes. I'm kind of a tombstone guy, just give me the inscription and spare me the family photos.Just the facts- name and dates, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted September 14, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2018 44 minutes ago, Neighbor said: ??? Never thought you were. I knew you weren't I just wanted to add more to my reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfailing Presence Posted September 14, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 649 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 170 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, PinkBelt said: 1 hour ago, Unfailing Presence said: I don't know if it is true or not but I have heard it said that people in the more " developed " countries in general are less fertile , and that may be a factor . People in developed countries have greater access to birth control. But it is also proven in numerous studies that the more education a person has, they later they get married and the less interested they are in *ahem* intimate recreational activity. May not be a real good barometer but I have known at least two instances within my extended family of couples struggling to have a child . Interesting with one of the couples , I think partially in an effort to change everything that had been so heart wrenching for them , decided to sell everything and become Christian missionaries half way around the world . Making a total commitment to Jesus . No sooner did they become established in this other country Christ granted them their desire for a child , + more . They fulfilled their missionary work for several years , and came back to the states with several new additions . Just another example that there is nothing about us the Lord does not know and care about , and we just need to let Him lead us . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Unfailing Presence said: May not be a real good barometer but I have known at least two instances within my extended family of couples struggling to have a child . Interesting with one of the couples , I think partially in an effort to change everything that had been so heart wrenching for them , decided to sell everything and become Christian missionaries half way around the world . Making a total commitment to Jesus . No sooner did they become established in this other country Christ granted them their desire for a child , + more . They fulfilled their missionary work for several years , and came back to the states with several new additions . Just another example that there is nothing about us the Lord does not know and care about , and we just need to let Him lead us . I have no idea how that anecdote it related to what I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 21 hours ago, creativemechanic said: was discussing the birth rate issue in our country with a friend the other day. This is also a problem identified among certain Christian denominations while other religions e.g. Muslims and Rastafarian have swarms of kids Anothe reason identified was that people now having access to contraceptives and have a better standard of living before will prefer to have smaller families and use the more money and resources that can stretch more to enjoy life more (is the family can have more stuff and do more things now that the money stretches further) The other person agreedcand considered it as selfishness ie we want less kids so we can have more for ourselves. what do you think anoutvtuat perspective. No, having a small family is not selfishness. In many cases, it is wisdom. Selfishness would be not providing for the kids you have in order to make the money go further. Deciding to have a small family and live inside your means so that you can give your children a better quality upbringing is the selfless, godly approach. I don't think it is appropriate to assign motives to people, as if they don't want too many children just because they want to live for themselves. That is usually not the case. People should live in their means and have some money for retirement set back, as well as have the means to take care of emergencies when they arise. That's not selfishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 Well, “Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.” (Pslam 127:4-5) in Jewish culture they believe you have not multiplied until you have three children, the other two replace the parents and so the third child is the multiplication. Ultimately, you must follow the call of Christ. If it is celibacy so be it or a quiver full of kids, or one child so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 951 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,565 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,045 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted September 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Fidei Defensor said: in Jewish culture they believe Hi, As a sidenote will you provide some back up to that declaration? I am unaware of a common Jewish culture, (Seems to me if there is one it may be to commonly disagree on conclusios reached) never mind a common Jewish culture declaration that one should have three children if one is to multiply. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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