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THE SOUND OF TRUMPET AND MILLIONS OF ANGELS WILL BE BE SEEN WHEN THE RAPTURE TAKES PLACE :

The rapture is not a silent occurence where people suddenly disappear without any cause and causes confusion as to why they disappear (as depicted in the movie LEFT BEHIND by Nicolas Cage, see youtube ).

Lord Jesus says the mighty sound of trumpet will be heard through out the whole world like when Father Jehova descended to Mt. Sinai

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a GREAT SOUND OF TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And look, Jesus also says that He will send His angels (perhaps millions) to gather the elect from all over the world, the world will undoubtedly see the sky fills with angels everywhere taking the elect to the cloud.

People will tremble when they hear the trumpet and God descended in the thick cloud like when He descended on Mt. Sinai.

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were THUNDERS AND LIGHTNINGS, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp TREMBLED.

The angels will take one and leave another one as described here :

Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

This verse also proof that Rapture will happen when the sun still shines (people work in the field during day light).

AND THE RAPTURE WILL BE PRECEDED BY A MIGHTY STORM WHICH BRINGS DARKNESS TO THE EARTH.

Psalm 50:3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:2 .... Clouds and darkness are round about him

Deut 5:22 These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the THICK DARKNESS, with a great voice...

When Jesus was crucified there was darkness on earth which signs He is the truly Son of God.

Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

The preceding darkness be4 the appearance of Jesus during the Rapture may look like this :youtube.com/watch?v=qx81AXVNUh8

People will cry because they see that Jesus Christ will not come to rule the world but to take the elect with Him to heaven :

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

If Jesus appearance is to rule the world people will not mourn, and after the rapture people willl somehow feel inside their heart that something really bad is coming to the earth.

So for many people making a movie depicting people suddenly disappear without notice at the rapture, absolutely wrong. The storm, the black cloud and then the mighty sound of trumpet and million of angels shall be coming with Jesus visible on the cloud. The whole world will stop to watch this mighty event.

Some people say that nuclear icbm will fall at the rapture, thats absolutely imaginative.  Apostle John didn't see that.

Some people also say that "we go up, missiles come down", thats imaginative, God cannot be rule by any man so as to force the rapture to happen quickly in order to avoid man-made war.

Some people say that "pregnancy " will disappear and also little babies/toddlers, thats also imaginative, because there will be children in the tribulation.

Matt 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

 

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On 10/6/2018 at 8:59 PM, R. Hartono said:

THE SOUND OF TRUMPET AND MILLIONS OF ANGELS WILL BE BE SEEN WHEN THE RAPTURE TAKES PLACE :

The rapture is not a silent occurence where people suddenly disappear without any cause and causes confusion as to why they disappear (as depicted in the movie LEFT BEHIND by Nicolas Cage).

Lord Jesus says the mighty sound of trumpet will be heard through out the whole world like when Father Jehova descended to Mt. Sinai

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a GREAT SOUND OF TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And look, Jesus also says that He will send His angels (perhaps millions) to gather the elect from all over the world, the world will undoubtedly see the sky fills with angels everywhere taking the elect to the cloud.

People will tremble when they hear the trumpet and God descended in the thick cloud like when He descended on Mt. Sinai.

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were THUNDERS AND LIGHTNINGS, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp TREMBLED.

The angels will take one and leave another one as described here :

Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

This verse also proof that Rapture will happen when the sun still shines (people work in the field during day light).

AND THE RAPTURE WILL BE PRECEDED BY A MIGHTY STORM WHICH BRINGS DARKNESS TO THE EARTH.

Psalm 50:3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:2 .... Clouds and darkness are round about him

Deut 5:22 These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the THICK DARKNESS, with a great voice...

When Jesus was crucified there was darkness on earth which signs He is the truly Son of God.

Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

The preceding darkness be4 the appearance of Jesus during the Rapture may look like this :

People will cry because they see that Jesus Christ will not come to rule the world but to take the elect with Him to heaven :

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

If Jesus appearance is to rule the world people will not mourn, and after the rapture people willl somehow feel inside their heart that something really bad is coming to the earth.

So for many people making a movie depicting people suddenly disappear without notice at the rapture, absolutely wrong. The storm, the black cloud and then the mighty sound of trumpet and million of angels shall be coming with Jesus visible on the cloud. The whole world will stop to watch this mighty occurence.

Some people say that nuclear icbm will fall at the rapture, thats absolutely imaginative.

Some people also say that "we go up, missiles come down", thats imaginative, God cannot be rule by any man so as to force the rapture to happen quickly.

Some people say that "pregnancy " will disappear and also little babies/toddlers, thats also imaginative, because there will be children in the tribulation.

Matt 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

 

You are trying t0 mix two gatherings into one. And two comings of our Lord into one. 

The truth is, He will come pretrib FOR His saints and with His saints after the 70th week. And after the 70th week He will gather His Hebrew elect back to Israel. Angels will accomplish this. God can certainly rapture all the babies at His pretrib coming, but then women can certainly get pregnant after that.  There will be 3 1/2 years to the midpoint when they will have to flee. 

It may well be someone's imagination is exactly what will happen.

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Nothing in all of scripture that says Christ takes us to Heaven.

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1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

Nothing in all of scripture that says Christ takes us to Heaven.

Where did you think He's taking us: Hoboken, New Jersey? O.o

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24 minutes ago, Sojourner414 said:

Where did you think He's taking us: Hoboken, New Jersey? O.o

Jerusalem!!,do show where He takes you to Heaven,without speculating

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2 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Jerusalem!!,do show where He takes you to Heaven,without speculating

Jesus will first gather the elect to heaven, then after 7 years He will return with the saints to Armageddon battle to defeat antichrist and then He will land on Mount Olive to begin His Millennium.

John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

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2 hours ago, n2thelight said:

Jerusalem!!,do show where He takes you to Heaven,without speculating

This:

2 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Jesus will first gather the elect to heaven, then after 7 years He will return with the saints to Armageddon battle to defeat antichrist and then He will land on Mount Olive to begin His Millennium.

John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

(Thanks R. Hartono. :) )

Unless of course n2thelight, you think the Father's House is on earth for some odd reason. Do show where the Father's house is on Earth, without speculating.

 

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On 10/9/2018 at 12:43 PM, R. Hartono said:

Jesus will first gather the elect to heaven, then after 7 years He will return with the saints to Armageddon battle to defeat antichrist and then He will land on Mount Olive to begin His Millennium.

John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

The bible does not say 7 years. It just says he will gather the elect, and then return with them. We are not appointed to wrath, it could well be just that final wrath on the day of the Lord that we miss. We get raptured and then join the heavenly feast, then come back with the heavenly army.

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On 10/9/2018 at 3:28 AM, n2thelight said:

Jerusalem!!,do show where He takes you to Heaven,without speculating

Well, that assumes that the return of Yeshua to the earth is the same thing as the removal of the redeemed to Him. 

But there is a lot of Tanakh (OT) passages that support the idea that the redeemed are hidden from all the calamities of the 70th week, and go so far as to allude that the redeemed are taken and hidden with the Lord while that is going on.  

Isaiah 26:19-21 for instance dovetails quite nicely with Yeshua's comments in John 14:2-3.   And the same passage in Isaiah dovetails quite nicely with what Paul taught in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.   And Psalms 27:5 also supports this.  And that is only scratching the surface.

And when combined with the child being born in Revelation 12, many OT passages that talk about Israel giving birth at the start or immediately before the end times calamities seems to match up.  The child is indeed the Messiah, but as the body of Messiah, the redeemed.  Yeshua Himself was never "caught up", "harpazo", "raptured" at His birth.  But His body, the redeemed, which was conceived in Jerusalem when the Holy Spirit came upon those in the room on Shavuot (Pentecost), will be born and immediately caught up / harpazo / raptured.   And it is after this event that the woman, Israel, flees to the wilderness and Satan is cast down.  

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On 10/9/2018 at 3:02 AM, Sojourner414 said:

Where did you think He's taking us: Hoboken, New Jersey? O.o

Ha ha! Good!

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