Who is the widow? What are the chosen ones crying for?

[Dennis1209]

11 hours ago, listener24 said:

This is another great question dear @Yowm

You show to greatly understand the point, which is important regardless your disagreement.

A simple answer is that we really don't know the timeline and we don't need to know it.

Even if it seems slow to us, it would have been even slower without spreading the Gospel and the prayer for His Return.

Another thing to consider is this.

The first Christians, were aware of this prayer, it was natural to them.

They were greeting each other with the word Maranatha, come quickly Jesus.

You can find this even in other early Christian writings, like the Didache.

Then what happened?

Christianity corrupted itself by merging with Rome, and instead of looking "above" they started looking down and thinking that the Kingdom of Heaven was something to "build" on earth.

There aren't many traces of this prayer, after this terrible event, for centuries and centuries.

Theology started talking about irrelevant issues.

Then in the recent times, there seems to be an awakening, at least for some remnants.

You can read several pastors today talking about this topic, included Adrian Rogers, Jon Courson or Derek Prince.

And these are the time in which the last piece missing can come true:

"And this Gospel of the Kingsom will be preached in the whole world, as a testimony to all nations. And then the end will come"

These are the time in which from all over the world, "the Spirit and the Bride" can shout "come" (Revelation 22:17)

Sure, if humanity would have been more receptive God would have likely fixed an even earlier timeline.

Instead from the 3rd century we turned our sights to our idols, for the most.

But we can do our part today

In the worst case, it is at least a prayer that helps us keeping our eyes fixed on our blessed hope.

It is also great to prevent issues like preterism and social Gospel and prosperity Gospel

But I think it is noy only that, but even more powerful

Not to go off topic, but reading your post, three words popped into my head, "the dark age". What was dark about that age in reality? 

My opinion is; from Constantine and the marrying of church and state, to the Protestant Reformation, God's word was suppressed. No one other than the RCC was allowed to own the Bible or any scripture. It was read in Mass only in Latin, which very few could understand. It was interpreted to the Mass as the priest saw fit. That was a centuries long 'gap' that the Gospel was suppressed and the traditions of man gained steam. Much like what occurred with the Jewish Sadducee's and Pharisee's until Christ. 

[listener24]

On 11/16/2018 at 6:52 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Not to go off topic, but reading your post, three words popped into my head, "the dark age". What was dark about that age in reality? 

My opinion is; from Constantine and the marrying of church and state, to the Protestant Reformation, God's word was suppressed. No one other than the RCC was allowed to own the Bible or any scripture. It was read in Mass only in Latin, which very few could understand. It was interpreted to the Mass as the priest saw fit. That was a centuries long 'gap' that the Gospel was suppressed and the traditions of man gained steam. Much like what occurred with the Jewish Sadducee's and Pharisee's until Christ. 

This is brilliant Dennis.

And it is not that "off topic", it really explains a lot of things.

There has been a long gap, between the first Christians understanding many more things from the Gospel and praying the Lord to Return, and the "Christians" who just took political power and betrayed the Word for the world.

All of this was forecasted by Jesus, who left us the description of everything that would have happened, in His fights with the Pharisees.

Every words by which He accused the pharisees has perfect relevance in Christianity, starting from "you shut the doors of the Kingdom of Heaven in people faces".

Unfortunately, with so many errors accumulated, even Protestant reform wasn' t enough.

There were still a lot of things to be purified.

Moreover, sometimes even in Protestantism several errors and confusions accumulated, so we should be always on guard, and learn every day from Jesus words.

To reconnect with the OT, with all of these damages happened, with so much division caused for political reasons, there is still a cry that can rise from the remnants in every denomination, all the true lovers of the Lord: Maranatha! Come quickly Lord!

 

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by listener24