Archangel Thyos Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2018 If the US Government defined and abolished perversion, what would happen? How has abolishing perversion been perverted in the past? Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,259 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,866 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Archangel Thyos said: How has abolishing perversion been perverted in the past? It's always has been around, since the fall......... "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1;9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithbuilders Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 235 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1972 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just look at history; how well did it go over when the government tried to abolish alcohol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,710 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,526 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 25, 2018 You cant abolish sin of any kind. Has never worked, never will. To attempt to would be tyranny, which always corrupts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Archangel Thyos said: If the US Government defined and abolished perversion, what would happen? How has abolishing perversion been perverted in the past? Any thoughts? How do you define "perversion"? I do not like government telling people how to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,259 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,866 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2018 5 hours ago, PinkBelt said: How do you define "perversion"? I do not like government telling people how to live. John Adams “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PinkBelt Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Gary Lee said: John Adams “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” How this answers my question I'm unsure. Regardless, here is the quote in context: "But should the people of America once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another, and towards foreign nations, which assumes the language of justice and moderation, while it is practising iniquity and extravagance, and displays in the most captivating manner the charming pictures of candor, frankness, and sincerity, while it is rioting in the rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world. Because we have no government armed with the power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams was close friends with Thomas Jefferson, a man who was disdainful of Christianity and religion in general. They shared many philosophical beliefs with regards to morality and the churches role in society. Adams was a Christian sure, but he certainly was not advocating some church/state enmeshment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,259 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,866 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, PinkBelt said: How this answers my question I'm unsure. 8 hours ago, PinkBelt said: How do you define "perversion"? I do not like government telling people how to live. I should have said, "I agree", with your post, which I do along with most citizens. My apologies for not making it more clear, PinkBelt. I also saw the lengthy article, the same one you saw and quoted, and realized the author ( James Finn, an atheist, see below ) also said many people take it out of context. I disagree. Adams said it. James Finn in his agenda, gave his version, and that's OK. I was trying to avoid making a detour, as is now happening. The OP ask "How has abolishing perversion been perverted in the past?" I posted there is no new sin, and that our government, our Constitution, was prayed over and over by our founding fathers at it's inception, and was designed for a moral people. That's all. Moral laws are bull dozed over by immoral people. Look around you today. Who tries to keep the law, who ignores the law? And changes it, militantly? (see below) THIS BELOW is his signature on articles. HIS WORDS. (look him up) James FinnWriter. "Runner. Marine. Airman. Former LGBTQ and HIV activist. Former ActUpNY and Queer Nation. Polyglot. Middle-aged, uppity faggot." You might understand now, PinkBelt, why I chose to ignore his blather. I chose to quote Adams. "The Holy Ghost carries on the whole Christian system in this Earth. Not a baptism, not a marriage, not a sacrament can be administered but by the Holy Ghost. . . . There is no authority, civil or religious – there can be no legitimate government – but that which is administered by this Holy Ghost. There can be no salvation without it.All without it is rebellion and perdition, or in more orthodox words, damnation." John Adams........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) My extent as to what I think the government should do about "perversion" is that it should protect the unwilling and innocent from it. As for what consenting adults do, that is their business and between them and God. Edited November 25, 2018 by LadyKay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I agree that we can't pass laws to abolish immorality but neither should we keep making immorality legal. Why? Let me explain. Every new generation has to learn what's right and what is wrong for themselves. But they still learn lessons from the older folks and their government. But many perversions deeply disturb us when we do them. If that perversion is legal a person may have to reach 50 before he realizes how bad it is. This is why we shouldn't legalize perversions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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