OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

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19 minutes ago, Butero said:

That still doesn't change what you said.  

What did I say? Either you're born again or not, right?

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19 minutes ago, Cletus said:

there are many who go to church and who are born again who like a dog returns to their vomit and no longer hear from God, no longer have peace, no longer are in Gods presence, and bear no more fruit.  they have walked away from God... there are some of those that stand up in church later and you hear them say the re-dedicated their lives to Jesus.  Thank God for His tender mercies, which are new every morning.

2 Pet 2 is actually in reference to false prophets and teachers, those who had the knowledge of the Gospel but never received it. (2 Pet 2:1)

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12 minutes ago, Butero said:

He said Christians don't belong to denominations.  That is a lot of believers he wrote off!

They can belong to denom. they just don't depend on them to keep them saved. Believers belong to Christ now.

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12 minutes ago, Butero said:

It is not a cross reference at all, and is about salvation!

No, Heb 6, 10 is about maturity.

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13 minutes ago, Cletus said:

1Jn 3:9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
Love One Another
1Jn 3:11  For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
1Jn 3:12  Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
1Jn 3:13  Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
1Jn 3:14  We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
1Jn 3:15  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
1Jn 3:16  Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
1Jn 3:17  But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
1Jn 3:18  My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
1Jn 3:19  And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
1Jn 3:20  For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
1Jn 3:21  Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
1Jn 3:22  And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23  And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24  And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

 

and the command is to love. we love Jesus Christ out of thankfulness to the cross, not to save ourselves.

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8 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

1 Pet 1:3-5 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

Yes, ....... only for those who have kept the faith or did not lose faith, did not deny or renounce the faith, depart from the faith, etc, until their very end.

2TIMOTHY.4:6-8 (NKJV) = Paul’s Valedictory

6 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8 Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.

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13 minutes ago, Butero said:

A railing accusation.  

Believers belonging to Christ is not an accusation, it's a fact. Again, read Paul's letters..

https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=belong&t=NIV#s=s_primary_0_2

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33 minutes ago, Butero said:

All past sins and sins done without premeditation are automatically covered.  Jesus must forgive all sins, so no I am not!

He did forgive all sins, to those who choose to believe John 3:16, Rom 10:9. Remember, eternal life is not temporary,, it's eternal.

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34 minutes ago, Butero said:

Nobody is doing that.

Well, how can one believe on the finished work of the cross if he believes it's not finished.

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34 minutes ago, Butero said:

You said Christians don't belong  to denominations.  

In the spiritual sense, they don't. They belong Christ.