Repentance

[jmwhalen]

Quote Nebila,

Why do you confuse . . .

repentance . . .

bearing fruit . . .

"seeking first the kingdom of God and His righteousness" . . .

"taking up your cross daily and following [Jesus]" . . .

with "observing the Law"?

because he doesn't know the true meaning of repentance. Repentence is not just a change of mind, it's also a change of heart, direction and attitude.

After an altar call or whatever, you can't just say , thankyou for coming into my life Lord, and all you forgivenss and promises, but I can't take up your cross today, because I've promised the boys I'll go out on the binge and I can't let the boys down. Thanks for saving me though.

Repent, repent repent. or perish.

Jesus said it, not me.

eric.

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Scripture's testimony is that repentance is "change of mind"-the LORD God repented. The context determines of what you are changing your mind.

"true" repentance-Regardless, "true" is a subjective term, as opposed to the objectivity of what was already done by the Lord Jesus Christ. And this is not "good news"N

"it's also a change of heart, direction and attitude."

This is service=sanctification=your walk, and is not the basis of justification.

"you can't just say , thankyou for coming into my life Lord, and all you forgivenss and promises, but I can't take up your cross today, because I've promised the boys I'll go out on the binge and I can't let the boys down. Thanks for saving me though."

And who said that? Only grace can teach you what to do/not to do for SERVICE.

The old "license to sin" argument", and judging your righteousness in comparison to others, which is the wrong standard. The proper/only acceptable standard is the righteousness of God, and we all fall short of this on our own, and this righteousness can only be obtained through being justified by faith in what the Lord Jesus Christ already did("good news", by defintion, is that which has already happened)- 1 Cor. 15:1-4.

This "you can't just say , thankyou for coming into my life Lord, and all you forgivenss and promises, but I can't take up your cross today, because I've promised the boys I'll go out on the binge and I can't let the boys down. Thanks for saving me though." mindset, is referred to as the "way of Cain"(Jude 11)-religion-presenting what you do(your service, either positively or negatively) as a basis for acceptance by a Holy God, despite the fact that the Holy Bible's testimony is that no amount of "lack of binging, taking up your cross" will justify you-only the work of the Lord Jesus Christ, and Him giving His life as a propitiatory sacrifice for you, and not you giving him your life(service), and His resurrection, will be accepted.

I say "thank you for what you already did for me 2000 years ago". I don't say "thank you for saving me-now, how much do I owe you in service?", just as I do not ask someone who has bestowed upon me a gift, "How much do I owe you for the gift?" I will not insult the grace(gift) of God.

"true" repentance-Regardless, "true" is a subjective term, as opposed to the objectivity of what was already done by the Lord Jesus Christ. And basing your justification on such a subjective criteria is not"good news", it is bad news.

Yes, and Moses, David, Paul were all murders. Sin is not just wrong doing, but wrong being. See previous post. We do have a license to sin, but we do not need that license-we do it naturally.

I have been justified by the grace of God.

In Christ,

John M. Whalen

[jmwhalen]

Sorry it took this long to respond.  I was at the lake for 3 days.  Here is the question I still have then.  At some point in my life I take Jesus as my savior, repent of my sins and I am on fire with the love of God.  My Faith and my works show this to be true.  I go many years solid in my faith to God.  But then I slip, and I slip some more.  and then I find I am committing some terrible things.  Can you loose your salvation?  If this is true then there is "Mortal Sin"  (salvation jeopardizing sin).  If it isn't true then once I have Gods grace, all sins don't matter, because they are already forgiven,  I think when we are committing (salvation jeopardizing sin) we close the door to God.  God didn't close it, we did!  We bind ourselves in the guilt of sin and we walk away from God and his grace.  We as humans have a very very difficult time forgiving ourselves.  God knows how to forgive; we don't do it well especially to ourselves.  It is at these times, when we are in salvation jeopardizing sin that we must confess our sins WITH another human being.  Only then will we open the door and except Gods grace.  Otherwise we keep the door shut. 

(Quote from Convert)