where will it lead?

[7cworldwide]

I read this last night and it was a real eye-opener for me...

http://www.rutherford.org/oldspeak/blog/ar...w/bat-yeor.html

It really is amazing that little Israel, completely surrounded by its enemies, has survived as long as it has.

[his-servant-too]

Isn't there something in our constitution about "FREEDOM OF RELIGION" or has that been taken out due to national security?

[Guest iceweasel]

I think that you are definatly being very over cautious and am quite shocked about ur attitude... yes it is very true that terrorist could quite easily hide in mosques howver they do not represent all muslims and i think that your view is not very christian because everyone is entitled to their own religion if someone tryed to stop you building a church in another country you wouldnt be happy

[his-servant-too]

Don't look now BUT......................<--------

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OK ....... So what?

[truesunn]

There are none so blind as those who will not see. Islam under its founder, Muhammad of Yathrib, calls for the destruction of all "infidels" (guess who) and all "renegades".

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

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Hmm so that's why they are suicide bombing their own people!!!

(Sorry had to lighten the mood a little)

Seriously though, up here in Michigan, in a town called Hamtramick, near Detroit, they let these folks call out prayers over a loud speaker! Now if I was hollering the book of Acts over a loudspeaker, I'd be arrested for violating a noise ordinance...

[truesunn]

Don't look now BUT......................<--------

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OK ....... So what?

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GRR @ Recess slide where after 6th grade they are segregated from the opposite sex and even bigger GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR at those black bedsheets those girls are forced to wear. How can any woman in America stand for that, Muslim or not?

[truesunn]

I think that you are definatly being very over cautious and am quite shocked about ur attitude... yes it is very true that terrorist could quite easily hide in mosques howver they do not represent all muslims and i think that your view is not very christian because everyone is entitled to their own religion if someone tryed to stop you building a church in another country you wouldnt be happy

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The bible in many places speaks of Christians segregating themselves from Idol worshippers... I can post them if you like, but will take me quite a while to find them all... Yes, we are to love our neighbors, true, but we are also to speak boldly on behalf of our Lord.

Yes there is freedom of religion in this country, but more and more Christians are the ones who are being persecuted and our rights being infringed upon...

Edited June 13, 2005 by truesunn

[O'Dannyboy]

Isn't there something in our constitution about "FREEDOM OF RELIGION" or has that been taken out due to national security?

So what you are saying is you wish to encourage people to accept Mohammed as their savior rather than Jesus? If not then why concern yourself with their right to do so? I posted the link to reafirm the fact that not are they among us but their numbers are growing. As their numbers grow in America it will become harder to tell them from everyone else.....of course not untill they have blown themselves up with a couple hundred other Americans. Not because they thought they were infadels but because they were Americans.

Not long ago a journalist in the Netherlands (I believe) wrote an article in a local paper about how women are opressed in Islamic countries. In less than a week she had been stabbed to death in a public park for her opinion. That could very well happen here at some point. I believe caution, in this case, is the better part of valor. I am not saying be fearful or even distant....just aware and alert. Your caution does not even need to be for your own sake but for the sake of those around you and those you love.

[his-servant-too]

So what you are saying is you wish to encourage people to accept Mohammed as their savior rather than Jesus?

Not at all. Where did you come up with that?

If not then why concern yourself with their right to do so?

Defending one groups rights is defending my rights and yours too. Who are you to decide who get what rights and who doesn't? If you're not willing to stand up for their right to freedom of religion then it's going to be your rights that will be on the chopping block next

As their numbers grow in America it will become harder to tell them from everyone else

They are US! We are all citizens of the United States of America.

of course not untill they have blown themselves up with a couple hundred other Americans. Not because they thought they were infadels but because they were Americans.

The same thing was said about the Japanese after Pearl Harbour and look what we did to them. Can you say paranoid! I bet you think that soon feeding christians to the lions is going to be an olympic sport.

Edited June 14, 2005 by his-servant-too

[O'Dannyboy]

Those big bad Christians. They're the ones blowing everyone else up by not converting in the first place. Who are they to say their God is better than anyone elses? You must have me confused with someone who thinks all religions are equal. How can you stand for something if you believe in nothing? I hope that you aren't going to try and convince me that Islam is a peaceful religion. I do believe there are those who CLAIM to be Muslim who are actually loving, caring and considerate people who could not bring themselves to kill another person. The simple fact is that Islam teaches that those who WILL not be converted must be killed. Not passed over, not to be patient with or forgiven or consigned to the fait they would be allowed to choose for themselves.....but KILLED. Has this sunk in yet?

Yes the Constitution guarantees us many rights that many other countries forsake. We are indeed fortunate. We must also remember that the people that wrote the constitutions were Christians. This country was founded by Christians for all Peace and Freedom loving people to enjoy. If America stands for anything its PEACE AND FREEDOM. Its not our Job to force democracy on the rest of the world. But I believe its everyones duty to fight for freedom. That being said I don't agree with or condone what the Muslims are pushing. Not to my children or yours. They have the freedom to believe what they will just as we do.....but personally I wish they would return to where they came from to believe it.

YES I will be cautious and even suspicious of all muslims even if they are Americans. As Christians we are taught to love everyone, even our enemies. I love you and everyone and wish you all good things. I don't have to like you or agree with you to love you. And so it is. If you continue to forsake God and worship at the alter of America instead of the feet of His one begotten son you may find yourself wishing you had never been born.

Edited June 15, 2005 by traveller