Who is the Bride?

[Yahsway]

Ekklessia in the greek means "the called out ones".

When the Hebrew children left Egypt, they also left with a "mixed multitude".

Stephen speaks of this first "ekklessia" in the desert.

Yod is correct in that it is the Israel of God which includes the ekklessia but is not exclusive to them.

[Trust & Obey]

It is the Israel of God...which includes the ekklessia but is not exclusive to them.

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Yod, when a Jewish person receives Yeshua as Messiah then that person becomes part of the ekklesia, or church.

Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

The Jew/gentile distinction is removed when we enter into life in Christ.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Gentiles are "fellowheirs" with all Jews who believe in Messiah.

Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

What body are gentiles fellowheirs in along with the Jews? That body is the church (ekklesia)

Eph 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,

Eph 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

If a person is a Christian, then they are part of the ekklesia, regardless of whether or not they are Jew or gentile.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, so let me clarify.

Do you consider yourself part of the church?

[Guest yod]

Absolutely....but did King David consider Himself in the church?

There are many places I can point to where Israel is called the Bride. You might "think" it is implied in the New Testament but it doesn't actually say that.

We, the nations, are joined through the church to the Bride....the Israel of God.

[Ahavah]

Absolutely....but did King David consider Himself in the church?

There are many places I can point to where Israel is called the Bride. You might "think" it is implied in the New Testament but it doesn't actually say that.

We, the nations, are joined through the church to the Bride....the Israel of God.

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AMEN

[mikhailjb7]

Absolutely....but did King David consider Himself in the church?

There are many places I can point to where Israel is called the Bride. You might "think" it is implied in the New Testament but it doesn't actually say that.

We, the nations, are joined through the church to the Bride....the Israel of God.

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So who is the Elect? I look around at what calls itself the church and it does not look very pretty full of harlotry, idolatry fornicators (translated dating sex), and the like all of which the NT says will not enter into the kingdom of heaven, fi someone says they are his, but they live like an unbeleiver and claim forgiveness and then go right out and do th same thing for years and years on end.

I cannot see these as belonging to the elect of Elohim at all.

Shalom,

Mikhail

[visionary]

So who is the Elect?

Edited June 4, 2005 by visionary