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" For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled "

Matthew 5:18

There are 15 commonly listed nomina sacra in Greek manuscripts written with a tittle ( titlo ) -

God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, Heaven

 

However, one is missing from the list, almost like it was purposefully overlooked / forgotten

Why do you think it's not listed ?

 

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3 hours ago, ἔκλειψις said:

" For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled "

Matthew 5:18

There are 15 commonly listed nomina sacra in Greek manuscripts written with a tittle ( titlo ) -

God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, Heaven

However, one is missing from the list, almost like it was purposefully overlooked / forgotten

Why do you think it's not listed ?

For what its worth, your list excludes "God Bearer" i.e. Mother of God, perhaps because you are not RC., and Greek New Testament manuscripts do not contain it.

List of Greek nomina sacra[edit] [sourced from Wkpd]

English Meaning Greek Word Nominative (Subject) Genitive (Possessive)
God Θεός ΘΣ ΘΥ
Lord Κύριος ΚΣ ΚΥ
Jesus Ἰησοῦς ΙΣ ΙΥ
Christ/Messiah Χριστός ΧΣ ΧΥ
Son Υἱός ΥΣ ΥΥ
Spirit/Ghost Πνεῦμα ΠΝΑ ΠΝΣ
David Δαυὶδ ΔΑΔ  
Cross/Stake Σταυρός ΣΤΣ ΣΤΥ
Mother Μήτηρ ΜΗΡ ΜΗΣ
God Bearer i.e. Mother of God Θεοτόκος ΘΚΣ ΘΚΥ
Father Πατήρ ΠΗΡ ΠΡΣ
Israel Ἰσραήλ ΙΗΛ  
Savior Σωτήρ ΣΗΡ ΣΡΣ
Human being/Man Ἄνθρωπος ΑΝΟΣ ΑΝΟΥ
Jerusalem Ἱερουσαλήμ ΙΛΗΜ  
Heaven/Heavens Οὐρανός ΟΥΝΟΣ ΟΥΝΟΥ

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Interesting, so there's another one

But there's still one missing


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χξϛ

That's the missing sacred name from the list

 


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45 minutes ago, Isaacsname said:

χξϛ

That's the missing sacred name from the list

 

Hi Isaacsname,

Would that be the LAMB? Interesting topic by the way.

Oh, I reread your title, (no pun intended) and maybe it is the Anti-Christ, who we know will be cast into the Lake of fire.

Marilyn.

 


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2 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Isaacsname,

Would that be the LAMB? Interesting topic by the way.

Marilyn.

 

It's the dreaded 666, actually ( and 616 )

I've always found it odd that a rather important notation for divinity in Greek manuscripts has basically been ignored after being purposefully written so long ago, especially considering Matthew 5:18

The fact it's written simply by affixing the letter stigma ( as a noun στίγμα meaning "a mark, dot, puncture", or generally "a sign" ) to the common Christogram ΧΣ ( The nomen sacrum of " Christ " , AKA the abbreviated form in Greek ) makes one wonder why the NT authors would feel the need to include 666 in the same category as: God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, and Heaven

Scripture makes it clear about the beast and having power to rule, etc, but this is definitely not divine like Christ or Christ's rule, nobody would ever claim 666 is divine, but yet it's written that way, quite clearly

I agree, it is interesting, notations for divinity in literature date all the back to about 2200 BC , with the Sumerian ideogram of a star being the cuneiform cognate to the Semitic " El ", first used as a determinant for divinity in literature by Naram-Sin, grandson of the founder of the Akkadian empire ( Who also standardized all measurements in Mesopotamia under a system that lasted for roughly 2,000 years, the source of all known units of measure in the Bible )

In fact Revelation's phrasing mentions this directly - the star in the pit, etc

 

 

 

 

 


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39 minutes ago, Isaacsname said:

It's the dreaded 666, actually ( and 616 )

Hi Isaacsname,

Wow, that is very interesting. Thank you for that. I would say that the 666 reveals the wicked one that the Lord prevailed over. Here are my thoughts on that.

666  = 600 + 60 + 6.

6 -  sinful man.

60  = 6 X 10 - sinful man disobeying God`s law.

600  = 6 X 10 X 10 – sinful man controlled by the spirit of complete lawlessness.

 

`the coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power & signs & lying wonders.` (2 Thess. 2: 9)

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Through some study into priestly texts in Mesopotamia, I discovered that 666 and 144,000 were used prior to the Bible, by priest-kings, for astronomy calculations regarding eclipse cycles ( Mainly eclipses AKA " signs in the sky " ), definitely some interesting reading if you are willing to wade through sites from Yale, Oxford, etc

Linguistic cognates are also interesting here, considering the definition of the Titlo - little horn

Greek - keras - κέρας - (a) a horn, (b) a horn-like projection at the corner of an altar, (c) a horn as a symbol of power

Hebrew - qeren -  קֶרֶן - hill , horn , horns , might , rays, strength

Akkadian: qarnu ( Early Old Babylonian, Old Babylonian, Middle Babylonian ) " horn; finger; fret " 

 

At that point in history ( Babylonian, Akkadian, Sumerian ) it's mainly a unit used by priest-kings to measure approximate degrees in astronomy using the fingers / hands ( A system still commonly used by modern astronomers )

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Isaacsname said:

The fact it's written simply by affixing the letter stigma ( as a noun στίγμα meaning "a mark, dot, puncture", or generally "a sign" ) to the common Christogram ΧΣ ( The nomen sacrum of " Christ " , AKA the abbreviated form in Greek ) makes one wonder why the NT authors would feel the need to include 666 in the same category as: God, Lord, Jesus, Christ, Son, Spirit, David, Cross, Mother, Father, Israel, Savior, Man, Jerusalem, and Heaven

The Christogram ΧΣ is not part of the number 666 in Strongs, having xi where sigma (Σ) would need to be.

Strongs G5516
χξς
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.
Total KJV occurrences: 1


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2 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

 

The Christogram ΧΣ is not part of the number 666 in Strongs, having xi where sigma (Σ) would need to be.

Strongs G5516
χξς
chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.
Total KJV occurrences: 1

Oh...OK

Σ was often represented with a lunate sigma ( The epigraphic form ) looks like the letter C

Jesus ( IΣ and IC ) Christ ( ΧΣ and ΧC )

Christ  = ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ  

Christogram = ΧΣ

ΧΣ + ϛ ( the ligature of sigma (Σ) and tau (Τ) ) = ΧΣϛ = 666

χξς = 666

ΧΣϛ = 666

χξς = ΧΣϛ = 666

 

I tend to use ΧΣϛ because that's the form in the oldest manuscripts containing 13:18, like P_47

 

thanks for your contribution to the thread

 

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