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Are we at the 5th Seal opening ?

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Many say we are at the 5th seal opening, awaiting the great earthquake of the 6th seal.

If the 5th Seal has been opened then we are all destined to die as martyrs following those under the Altar, as God say it :

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their FELLOWSERVANTS also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

And consequently we have missed the chance of being taken to the cloud alive (with our head intact).
1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The 5th Seal opening is the end of Christianity/Church Era all over the world and those who resist shall be put into captivity or beheaded. This speaks about the fate of the foolish virgins left. Those already taken alive to be with the Lord forever will be watching from the Heaven as the Great Multitude.

At present, The Holy Spirit is still working to spread Gospel Salvation in many parts of the world, though there are some resisting nations as happened since 2000 years ago. When the Holy Spirit is removed with the church it means the Church Era is over and antichrist will conquer the world with Peace (1 st Seal opening).

Those left in the Great Tribulation will be forced to worship the beast or beheaded. 
Rev 20:4.... and I saw the souls of them that were BEHEADED for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

No chance for mercy for those who refuse to worship antichrist but the wise virgins has been taken, and this is the fate of the foolish virgins should they be brave to deny the beast.

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No we are not at the fifth seal opening since the book of revelation has told us that we are not even in the 7 year tribulation yet. Have we experienced any of these? I really don't think so.

he first seal. The first seal introduces the Antichrist (Revelation 6:1–2). From the biblical description, we gather several details: he rides a white horse, which speaks of peace; at the beginning of the tribulation, the Antichrist will come under the pretense of bringing peace to the world (cf. Daniel 9:27). He is given a crown, which indicates that the Antichrist will exercise great authority (cf. Daniel 7:24–25). He holds a bow, which shows his true intentions, and he advances “as a conqueror bent on conquest” (Revelation 6:2).

The second seal. When the Lamb opens the second seal, great warfare breaks out on the earth (Revelation 6:3–4). This is symbolized by a rider with a large sword on a fiery red horse.

The third seal. The breaking of the third of the seven seals causes famine (Revelation 6:5–6). The rider that John sees is riding a black horse and “holding a pair of scales in his hand.” Then John hears a declaration that people will have to work all day to earn just a little food.

The fourth seal. The fourth seal is opened, and John sees a pale horse. “Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him” (Revelation 6:7–8). The result of this fourth seal is that one fourth of the earth’s population are killed “by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.”

The fifth seal. The scroll’s fifth seal reveals those who will be martyred for their faith in Christ during the tribulation (Revelation 6:9–11; cf. Matthew 24:9). The souls of these martyrs are pictured as dwelling under the altar in heaven. God hears their cries for justice, and He gives each of them a white robe. The martyrs are told to wait “until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.” God promises to avenge them, but the time was not yet (cf. Romans 12:19).

www.gotquestions.org/seven-seals-Revelation.html

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4 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

No we are not at the fifth seal opening since the book of revelation has told us that we are not even in the 7 year tribulation yet. Have we experienced any of these? I really don't think so.

he first seal. The first seal introduces the Antichrist (Revelation 6:1–2). From the biblical description, we gather several details: he rides a white horse, which speaks of peace; at the beginning of the tribulation, the Antichrist will come under the pretense of bringing peace to the world (cf. Daniel 9:27). He is given a crown, which indicates that the Antichrist will exercise great authority (cf. Daniel 7:24–25). He holds a bow, which shows his true intentions, and he advances “as a conqueror bent on conquest” (Revelation 6:2).

The second seal. When the Lamb opens the second seal, great warfare breaks out on the earth (Revelation 6:3–4). This is symbolized by a rider with a large sword on a fiery red horse.

The third seal. The breaking of the third of the seven seals causes famine (Revelation 6:5–6). The rider that John sees is riding a black horse and “holding a pair of scales in his hand.” Then John hears a declaration that people will have to work all day to earn just a little food.

The fourth seal. The fourth seal is opened, and John sees a pale horse. “Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him” (Revelation 6:7–8). The result of this fourth seal is that one fourth of the earth’s population are killed “by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.”

The fifth seal. The scroll’s fifth seal reveals those who will be martyred for their faith in Christ during the tribulation (Revelation 6:9–11; cf. Matthew 24:9). The souls of these martyrs are pictured as dwelling under the altar in heaven. God hears their cries for justice, and He gives each of them a white robe. The martyrs are told to wait “until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.” God promises to avenge them, but the time was not yet (cf. Romans 12:19).

www.gotquestions.org/seven-seals-Revelation.html

You are the worthy wise virgin.

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4 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

You are the worthy wise virgin.

Ummm.....is that a compliment? :noidea:

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If you think we are in the 5th seal and about to be martyrs at some point ... ok not fond of pain so I am not thrilled with it, but if that is what He wants, ok so be it ... then please tell me what fulfilled the other 4 seals.

1) Who is the antichrist?

2) The biggest war so far was world war 2. How is war today or in the past 20 yrs greater than that? Please identify the great warfare in that seal. 

3) While many areas and people are poor, have we reached the point of working a days wage just to eat in the whole world? 

4) In 1918 40 million people died of the flu up to one half the world population. Please identify something or multiple things that have killed one fourth of the world population and meets the 4th seal. 

The tribulation will be worse than anything that has happened so far. Yet current world conditions do not approach things that have happened so far in history.

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Daniel 9:27 (KJV) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Any seven year peace deals with many happen I'm not aware of?

 

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I would say no, but for one to determine that they have to deal with these items.  Is the antichrist revealed yet?   And in relation to the AC, when does the wrath begin... before or after He is revealed?  And in relation to both of those, when are the righteous removed?

There are a lot going on that determines when the seals are started and the timeline.

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