a civil debate about homosexuality

[Trinity]

Romans 1:21-24, 26-27

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

(Verse 26-27)

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion...

2 Timothy 4:3

For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

I want you to key on thise part of the verses i showed you:

"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, what their itching ears want to hear.

For although they knew God, their thinking became futile and their foolish. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

[Trust & Obey]

My previous minister told me to divorce her and seek out my first wife and reconcile with her if she was unmarried.

Wouldn't that "turn her into an adulteress?"

So, which is it? Does God want your 1st or 2nd wife to be the adulteress?

[Trinity]

My previous minister told me to divorce her and seek out my first wife and reconcile with her if she was unmarried.

Wouldn't that "turn her into an adulteress?"

So, which is it? Does God want your 1st or 2nd wife to be the adulteress?

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Can i ask you guys nicely to move the convo about the wife thiny somewhere else if you choose to continue the convo

[Guest mike626]

Gods word is written in the Bible - by mortal men

they are inturpritting God as they see him - but a lot of the stuf in there is representative and symbolic

for instance the Adam and Eve story

they cant have been the first people on the earth because that must then lead on to their children procreating (which is called incest)

im not taking away from the Bibles authority, but there are so many different ways of looking at verse

also can i jsut add to "trinity" that i asked also for explanations of Bible verses, not just Bible verses to be quoted - we can all look and read verse, but to use it in debate means we need to EXPLAIN it in context

God Bless

xXx

[Trinity]

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

How can you say that when the bible clearly says it is God breathed? Men did not merely inturpritting God as they see him, God told them what to write...

[Guest mike626]

and what makes what Gods telling me wrong

[Trinity]

I find it Hard to believe that God would say its ok for you to be a Gay! This is the same God who destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for being Gay! Geez... God better come up with a big apology for destroying them if God told you it is ok to be Gay!

[Guest mike626]

I find it Hard that God would say its ok for you to be a Gay, he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, geez... God better come up with a big apology for destroying them!

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no because their acts are completely different to mine

to me, that is twisting the Bible out of context

[tsth]

and what makes what Gods telling me wrong

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Because it does not align with His Word. That is how ANYTHING is defined as right or wrong. YOU do not get to be the definer of Truth. Man has NEVER been the author of Truth, Only the Lord God. He is the creator of Truth, therefore the Definer of Truth, lest you think He is not of the Truth??? The Truth, must originate from Someone, we cannot just all make up our own truths. That is why the world is in the mess it is in right now, because mankind has stopped seeking out the Truth/The Word, and living accordingly.

Remember...........His Name IS The Word.

In His Truth,

Suzanne

[Trinity]

I find it Hard that God would say its ok for you to be a Gay, he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, geez... God better come up with a big apology for destroying them!

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no because their acts are completely different to mine

to me, that is twisting the Bible out of context

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How am I Twisting scripture? Its you who are to make yourself feel that God is ok with it, don't you know the Devil can do the same to you so you will never see the truth?