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3 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Genesis 1: 26, 

Let us make man in our likenesses...  

But that time It was the sixth day of creation when everything was made and it seems the time was right for God to make man as he had proposed from before he made the things that he made those six days....

He had put all things in place, for this proposed to make man..

We had the Heavens, and the Angels...

We hate to break your heart, but man was Made on day 3, and was made into MALE and FEMALE on day 6. understand? the sexes was made on day 6, not man, which was made on day 3. 

see, this is why we need to get the truth correct. woman (the female, was taken out of the man, on day 6). and as the apostle Paul said, we can understand the Godhead by what was made on day 6, (the Male and the Female). 

 

now to understand Adam being MADE on day 3 read Genesis 1:9-13 first. then read Genesis 2:4-7, and compare both and see what day it is. 

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God made man from the dust of the earth......

God took a rib from Adam and made woman

So what does this mean???

Man is just dirt, but woman is prime rib...

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9 hours ago, 101G said:

We hate to break your heart, but man was Made on day 3, and was made into MALE and FEMALE on day 6. understand? the sexes was made on day 6, not man, which was made on day 3. 

see, this is why we need to get the truth correct. woman (the female, was taken out of the man, on day 6). and as the apostle Paul said, we can understand the Godhead by what was made on day 6, (the Male and the Female). 

 

now to understand Adam being MADE on day 3 read Genesis 1:9-13 first. then read Genesis 2:4-7, and compare both and see what day it is. 

PICJAG.

 

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. 

And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 

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2 hours ago, other one said:

God made man from the dust of the earth......

God took a rib from Adam and made woman

So what does this mean???

Man is just dirt, but woman is prime rib...

first, thanks for the reply, now you know that don't make any sense.... (lol),  how can you get prime rib from dirt?  maybe with a side order  of "dirty Rice"?..... (smile). get it, "side" order  that's a good one.... ok, just returing a little humor. 

 

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. 

And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. 

yes, this is the MAKING of the sexes, the Male and the Female on Day 6. but the man was alone before this. that's why the animals was made. listen, Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Genesis 2:20 "And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him".

NOW STOP AND THINK, according to Genesis 1:24-26 all the land animals was made on day 6 right. but if you're right, the man and the woman was made "AFTER" the animals. but was not the man Adam was here before the animanls? we suggest you read Genesis 2:18, 19 and 20 again. 

 

so tell us how did Adam, the man was here before tha animals was formed. Adam is the reason why they was formed, because God said it is not good for the man to be alone. and he was going to find a help mate for him. and none of the animals qualified.  remember Eve, the woman was not yet taken out of the man. read those scriptures again. only the SEX of the man and the woman, Male and Female was made on day 6.

now we're going to give you something else that will blow your mind. the woman was formed on day three also, inside the man. but was not yet brought forth untill the 6th day. ....... (smile), I know that just blew your mind. but there are so many hidden TRUTH right here in the Genesis CREATION, that man got wrong, or just have know about them.

understand something. the sexes, male and female was made on day 6. but man was made on day 3. that's another reason why I don't believe in man evolving  from any animal, especially monkeys, or apes. nor from any fish in the sea. God made man before all of these animals came upon the face of the EARTH.. JUST READ YOUR BIBLE. understand, Chapter 2 of Genesis is a detail account of Chapter 1.  

 

Now one other matter. many who believe that the Son was "WITH" the Father in CreaTION are in error. for we made it clear that it was JESUS as the Spirit all alone making all things.  the term "ETERNAL SON" is just the title of God, that was to come, and "shared", or "Diversified" in flesh. Son is not a separate and distinct person, but the title of the ONE TRUE GOD, JESUS, in flesh as Lord. 

 

so John 1:3 bare out John 17 :5 and confirm Isaiah 44:24 as the ONE and ONLY PERSON that is the CREATOR, and MAKER of all things. so clearly there have never been three person in any Godhead, only ONE.

 

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14 hours ago, 101G said:

We hate to break your heart, but man was Made on day 3, and was made into MALE and FEMALE on day 6. understand? the sexes was made on day 6, not man, which was made on day 3. 

see, this is why we need to get the truth correct. woman (the female, was taken out of the man, on day 6). and as the apostle Paul said, we can understand the Godhead by what was made on day 6, (the Male and the Female). 

 

now to understand Adam being MADE on day 3 read Genesis 1:9-13 first. then read Genesis 2:4-7, and compare both and see what day it is. 

PICJAG.

 

This is the third day..genesis 1:9-13

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

this is the 6th day: 

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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24, 25 on day six...the creation of animals...

Verse 26....genesis 1: 

Verse 27....In the image of God created he him..

How? the account of how God created Adam: chapter 2: 7

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. ......a lot of things happen on the same day: 

1: 27. 

In the image of God created he him, ---let's see what happen from the time God created Adam, the man...till the time he created Eve, the woman....in the last part of verse 1:27 that's say: 

"male and female created he them". 

in 2: 7 is the account of he creation of Man...the things that follow the creation of Man till the time, God put Adam to sleep and took a rib out of him to create the woman...is as in...2: 15-23 .

Chapter 2: 

15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

19 And out of the ground theLord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the LordGod had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

He made a couple the first couple: and he bless them telling them that or to us...

 that the offsprings will fill the earth....

 

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6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

This is the third day..genesis 1:9-13

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

this is the 6th day: 

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

King James Version (KJV)

 

24, 25 on day six...the creation of animals...

Verse 26....genesis 1: 

Verse 27....In the image of God created he him..

How? the account of how God created Adam: chapter 2: 7

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. ......a lot of things happen on the same day: 

1: 27. 

In the image of God created he him, ---let's see what happen from the time God created Adam, the man...till the time he created Eve, the woman....in the last part of verse 1:27 that's say: 

"male and female created he them". 

in 2: 7 is the account of he creation of Man...the things that follow the creation of Man till the time, God put Adam to sleep and took a rib out of him to create the woman...is as in...2: 15-23 .

Chapter 2: 

15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

19 And out of the ground theLord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the LordGod had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

He made a couple the first couple: and he bless them telling them that or to us...

 that the offsprings will fill the earth....

 

GINOLJC, to all.

First thanks for the reply. second, notice what was made on day 3 as you posted. listen, 

 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

so on day 3 the grass came forth, the herbs and the trees, this is on day 3. now this,

 Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

STOP and THINK. "before" the plants grew, "before" any herb grew, "before the trees grew" there was no rain. before anything grew, but God caused a mist to water the face of the Ground, and he made man. how do we know man was formed before the these things grew. because when dirt is wet there is no DUST. dust is formed when dirt is dry. so man was made before the anything grew. just read those verses again, and one will see when man was formed. 

 

now, the Genesis 1:26 question. Man was formed on day 3, but the woman was not yet brought forth. only the man was before the animals. the woman came after the animals, day 6. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them". so what is the IMAGE of God? Adam, meaning ANOTHER of himself. for Adam means "ANOTHER". H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person. 

there's the image of God, "another" of one's ownself. the equal share.

notice, Adam or Man can be an individual or the species, other words MANKIND, meaning "Male and or Female". for a woman is a man, just a FEMALE man, but a man just the same. hence the title "wo   man", because she was TAKEN out of man. simply put "ANOTHER" man. 

this is the IMAGE of God..... "ANOTHER" of Oneself. the Lord Jesus, who is the Spirit, is ANOTHER of himself shared in flesh.  as the woman share the man's body, so like wise the Lord Lord Jesus is the EQUAL share his own Spirit.  that's why the fullness of the Godhead dwells in him.

 

a few things to remember. 

1. the Man was formed on day 3. before anything grew

2. the Woman was formed or manifested on day 6 after the animals. 

3. the Image of God, that was to come, is the "ANOTHER" of oneself manifested in the Man and the Woman at creation.

 

Hope this helped you to understand.

 

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On 7/27/2019 at 3:00 AM, Your closest friendnt said:

John knew the Genesis book and how God made the world and man...

John also knew that the Lord God of Israel is the Creator of all, including Adam...

There must be a solid reason why John is introducing us to the term "the word"...

Something came to mind..before going any further ...

Genesis 1: 26, 

Let us make man in our likenesses...  

But that time It was the sixth day of creation when everything was made and it seems the time was right for God to make man as he had proposed from before he made the things that he made those six days....

He had put all things in place, for this proposed to make man..

We had the Heavens, and the Angels...

Perhaps the rebellion in Heaven, for we see the fallen one stacking Eve in the Garden...and so on...

John one is telling us about the "Word", God the Creator of all...

He settles as who God the Creator was...and we see that he was not alone...a simple reading is enough to see that he came forth from God and that he was also God...not a powerful Angel...

He was sent to execute the plan, he had the blew print..as we say: 

At the sixth day it was the time all have been waiting for: 

The Creation of man...

He did not have to be alone, Angels may have been there, they were allowed on earth. .

The Heavenly Father, he can see from Heaven, no need to step on earth....

And God created man, and everyone marvel..

First time they shaw man...what a glorious day that was....

The same thing as in John 3:16 

God the Father, not the Father of Israel, their Lord God...

Sent he own Son on a mission and he obey...knowing that this mission was asking for his death on the Cross..

The same thing or a similar situation at the beginning in Genesis, 

God the Father of all, sent his offspring the only offspring he had which John calls the "Word", and John knows why....

To create the world and man...and God the Word obey, knowing that the end of his mission would required his death on the Cross...

Knowing before the foundation of the earth that one day after he had chosen Abraham. Isaac, Jacob and all his children, to Moses and to be their God...that he as the seed of the woman will be born as the EMANUEL...THEIR NEXT OF KEEN...

The only one with the LIFE...for he new that the only one who had the LIFE after Adam lost it unto death it was only Him his God the Creator..

And he had to take him back..from Death and the Serpent...the Rebel the great Angel from Heaven..

If you want to spent some time, the Lord God knew at the time when he said the "the seed of the woman", that it was him, his coming mission, and the Devil also Knew. 

That is telling us as soon as God made Adam...je said to himself, and not only him but all the Angels and the Heavenly Father that one day the Creator will live everything to embraced the next step of his mission to look like Adam..to be the "Son of Man"... him to experience what Adam did not experienced to be carry in the womb of Mary for nine months...

 

 

Now I don’t know how Adam looked when created. But if he looked like us I wonder if they marveled at his humanity that was so simple. And not adorned as the Bible description of Angels. 

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@Your closest friendnt. 

we want you to think about what we said before. the Plurality of God's Singularity in the things that he, JESUS made. and what Jesus made is all things including "MAN", the male and the female. 

scripture,  Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD". we hold strictly to this TRUTH. God is one, but a Plurality of one, meaning "himself", ONLY. that's why when the apostle Paul said that JESUS is the ONLY ONE who have immoratility. hence the reason for our beliefs, "diversified oneness". 

God, who is LORD, is Lord in flesh. supportive scripture, John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was". here we see the clear point od "diversity". our Lord said, " glorify thou me with thine own self". meaning "Spirit". for this is what he was before the foundation of the world was laid. but now glorified in flesh. that's why John in revelation said this, Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads". notice he said, "see HIS Face", not their faces, nor their "NAMES", but "HIS" name, one name.

so Jesus being before creation, present a problem for anyone who believes in a three persons Godhead. here's why. if the Lord Jesus was before the world, and he created it, then there was only him. because Isaiah 44:24 states that the one who made all things was alone and by himself. "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself".

here the "LORD" said he made all things. in John 1:3 the word, (JESUS), made all things, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". made by "HIM" which is a single person designation. so my trinity believing friends need to reconcile these verses to support their doctrine. but the scripture are clear, there was only one maker, whom our Lord Jesus confirm in Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female". so the "he" is ONE person, who made all things.

 

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On 7/28/2019 at 8:21 AM, 101G said:

GINOLJC, to all.

First thanks for the reply. second, notice what was made on day 3 as you posted. listen, 

 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

so on day 3 the grass came forth, the herbs and the trees, this is on day 3. now this,

 Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Genesis 2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Genesis 2:6 "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

STOP and THINK. "before" the plants grew, "before" any herb grew, "before the trees grew" there was no rain. before anything grew, but God caused a mist to water the face of the Ground, and he made man. how do we know man was formed before the these things grew. because when dirt is wet there is no DUST. dust is formed when dirt is dry. so man was made before the anything grew. just read those verses again, and one will see when man was formed. 

 

now, the Genesis 1:26 question. Man was formed on day 3, but the woman was not yet brought forth. only the man was before the animals. the woman came after the animals, day 6. Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them". so what is the IMAGE of God? Adam, meaning ANOTHER of himself. for Adam means "ANOTHER". H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person. 

there's the image of God, "another" of one's ownself. the equal share.

notice, Adam or Man can be an individual or the species, other words MANKIND, meaning "Male and or Female". for a woman is a man, just a FEMALE man, but a man just the same. hence the title "wo   man", because she was TAKEN out of man. simply put "ANOTHER" man. 

this is the IMAGE of God..... "ANOTHER" of Oneself. the Lord Jesus, who is the Spirit, is ANOTHER of himself shared in flesh.  as the woman share the man's body, so like wise the Lord Lord Jesus is the EQUAL share his own Spirit.  that's why the fullness of the Godhead dwells in him.

 

a few things to remember. 

1. the Man was formed on day 3. before anything grew

2. the Woman was formed or manifested on day 6 after the animals. 

3. the Image of God, that was to come, is the "ANOTHER" of oneself manifested in the Man and the Woman at creation.

 

Hope this helped you to understand.

 

PICJAG.

Just to respond to one issue at the time....your suggestion that God created Adam before the creation  of the fourth day. 

On day four God created scriptures reference Genesis 1: 14-19, 

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 

This is what was created on day four....

 

 

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