RTCarroll Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: When the son gives a few words at the funeral, he tells how his father welcomed the fiance into the family, how his dad accepted his homosexuality etc. Presenting it as something to be accepted. Ah, the preemptive banning, not based on anything that took place but on what might happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, ayin jade said: The gay son was singing and it is presumed that his fiance would be attending. I assume the son would also be giving a few words. In all of this, it would appear to be condoning homosexuality if the funeral was held in that church. So.......if an unsaved person is attending the funeral and singing? Would that mean that the church is condoning the unsaved? I mean should each guest attending be a born again Christian or else they are not allowed to attend? Just how far should we go with this? I mean sin is sin right? A straight person who is unsaved is just as much of a sinner as a gay person are the not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Kristin said: I think the church can’t allow open and obvious sin. We all understand everyone sins. But open and obvious can’t be allowed. We cannot be proud of our rebellion against Christ Okay so therefor anyone who has not accepted Christ as their savor and living for Christ is not allowed to attend a funeral at this church. So we we understand each other here. That is what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 15 hours ago, pg4Him said: If the church charges a fee to do funerals like a business, I can foresee real legal trouble, especially if there was some sort of contract with no clause for immoral behavior. If they were doing it for free as a ministry, that’s a different story. Bakeries charge a fee. The bakery still won. This is about the first amendment. They can refuse to do a funeral for whatever reason they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.33 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, RTCarroll said: Ah, the preemptive banning, not based on anything that took place but on what might happen. Actually, it explains why you do the preemptive cancellation. It's why bars don't allow guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, RTCarroll said: Ah, the preemptive banning, not based on anything that took place but on what might happen. We dont know what was said between church and son. Perhaps the son made an issue out discussing his fathers acceptance of his homosexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, LadyKay said: So.......if an unsaved person is attending the funeral and singing? Would that mean that the church is condoning the unsaved? I mean should each guest attending be a born again Christian or else they are not allowed to attend? Just how far should we go with this? I mean sin is sin right? A straight person who is unsaved is just as much of a sinner as a gay person are the not? If an unsaved person is glorifying living with unmarried girl or shows up drunk then refuse them too. Doesnt the church have the right to refuse them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 hours ago, LadyKay said: A straight person who is unsaved is just as much of a sinner as a gay person are the not? Duly noted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTCarroll Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, ayin jade said: If an unsaved person is glorifying living with unmarried girl or shows up drunk then refuse them too. Doesnt the church have the right to refuse them? As the old saying goes, just because you can do something, does not mean you should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyKay Posted July 25, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) oh never mind delete please. Edited July 25, 2019 by LadyKay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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