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23 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

It should be noted that God “ Repented” 19 times in the Bible.....He holds the record in that category.I can’t really explain that fact.....just thought that it should be pointed out.....

Just as well we don't have to be confined to the KJV. The "God repenting" storm in a teacup disappears when more accurate translations of the verses in question are perused.  

Gen 6:6 KJV
(6)  And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Gen 6:6 ESV

(6) And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.

Gen 6:6 ISV

(6) Then the LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and he was deeply grieved about that.

Gen 6:6 NKJV
(6)  And the LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

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8 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

Right, How can omniscient God make a mistake?

Note below what I really said;

9 hours ago, Sower said:

I feel God is about to put His foot down.
Before man creates some monster mistake.
Again.

 

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10 hours ago, OneLight said:

I really don't think there is enough time for them to do all that.  They will soon have bigger problems to deal with.

Well let's talk about that. Would you agree that one day soon, the supernatural is going to become the natural, especially during the tribulation period? 

Luke 17:26 (KJV) And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

What was so different about those days that Jesus had to go that far back for His comparison? That everything with the breath of life had to be destroyed? The Lord could have easily just singled out man to be destroyed and left the creatures with the breath of life live. 

Genesis 6:9 (KJV) These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

What did the Lord mean calling Noah perfect in his generation? For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The Hebrew word for perfect [tamiym], would have to mean without blemish, complete, whole, without spot, undefiled. 

The whole story seems to center around Genesis 6: 1-4 and after that. Every ancient civilization has a global flood story. Every ancient civilization has a god, demi-god story with human/animal features and characteristics they worshiped. If this view is the correct one, then we can expect a return of the creatures that walked the earth in Noah's time. 

Do you have an alternate view why Jesus had to go back some 2,500 years for His comparison? There we many ages of prosperous times during those 2,500 years prior to the deluge. 

Your thoughts?

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1 minute ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well let's talk about that. Would you agree that one day soon, the supernatural is going to become the natural, especially during the tribulation period? 

Luke 17:26 (KJV) And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

What was so different about those days that Jesus had to go that far back for His comparison? That everything with the breath of life had to be destroyed? The Lord could have easily just singled out man to be destroyed and left the creatures with the breath of life live. 

Genesis 6:9 (KJV) These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

What did the Lord mean calling Noah perfect in his generation? For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The Hebrew word for perfect [tamiym], would have to mean without blemish, complete, whole, without spot, undefiled. 

The whole story seems to center around Genesis 6: 1-4 and after that. Every ancient civilization has a global flood story. Every ancient civilization has a god, demi-god story with human/animal features and characteristics they worshiped. If this view is the correct one, then we can expect a return of the creatures that walked the earth in Noah's time. 

Do you have an alternate view why Jesus had to go back some 2,500 years for His comparison? There we many ages of prosperous times during those 2,500 years prior to the deluge. 

Your thoughts?

Speaking to Luke 17:26, Jesus is comparing the hearts of men, their desires, not their intelligence.   The evilness that were in the hearts of those in the days of Noah will be the same as those in the day the Lord returns.  Jesus used the days of Lot as an example.  In both groups, notice that the continued in their way without even heeding any warning from God, as if God did not matter one iota.  Their hearts were not toward God, but their fleshly desires.

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2 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Speaking to Luke 17:26, Jesus is comparing the hearts of men, their desires, not their intelligence.   The evilness that were in the hearts of those in the days of Noah will be the same as those in the day the Lord returns.  Jesus used the days of Lot as an example.  In both groups, notice that the continued in their way without even heeding any warning from God, as if God did not matter one iota.  Their hearts were not toward God, but their fleshly desires.

Very true! But couldn't the same thing be said in many periods of Hebrew / Israel history?

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1 minute ago, Dennis1209 said:

Very true! But couldn't the same thing be said in many periods of Hebrew / Israel history?

What other times in history destroyed life like these two?  Look at what will happen to life when the seal begin to open to the last vial being poured out.  Lots of people will die, lots of nature will be destroyed. 

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4 minutes ago, OneLight said:

What other times in history destroyed life like these two?  Look at what will happen to life when the seal begin to open to the last vial being poured out.  Lots of people will die, lots of nature will be destroyed. 

Once again I agree. And during these judgments of the end-times, something again is exceptionally strange from the human nature we have witnessed today. Just one of many examples I could use; during 9/11 [might have been a judgment - wake up call for America] as a nation, many people repented [changed] for just a brief period of time. Church pews filled to capacity around the nation for a brief period of time, then shortly everything went back to business as usual.

During the tribulation with the myriad of judgments and wrath, the majority of people refuse to repent, they get angrier at God and shake their fists at Him. The human heart is hard and evil now, as it has always been but, it seems something drastically and suddenly changed in the heart from what it is currently? The Lord will be sending a strong delusion, yet some will be saved, repent accept the Lord Jesus and will be martyred. 

Anyway like I mentioned, the supernatural will become the natural as in the days of Noah. The Two Witnesses will be performing miracles, angels will be flying through the air proclaiming the Gospel, the False Prophet will be doing signs and wonders, and I suspect there will be a return of the Nephilim. Not dogmatic, just my thoughts.

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I suspect things will be more like they were during the bad days of the Roman Empire when the supernatural was behind the curtain, and yet God's purposes were accomplished.

Its always been this way.

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3 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

There are some sins that will bring God down—that He will not tolerate.  
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Yep, and that's sort of an offshoot of my post. We are not to tinker with God's creation and cross species [a kind of species is a different matter]. I believe that was occurring in the days of Noah, and a major reason why the Lord destroyed everything with the breath of life [cf. Gen. 6: 1-4].

When you add what all the ancients believed, wrote about and practiced with the historical accounts. Look to the biblical account and history, the picture becomes more clear and makes sense.   

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40 minutes ago, Sonshine said:

There are some sins that will bring God down—that He will not tolerate.  
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If you travel to the area in Israel, described in Gen. 18, then you can view for yourself the area where God's intolerance for continued sexual depravity was released.

Roman's 1 refers to it as "unnatural affection".

CNN and MSNBC and most of the world, refer to it as "born this way".

 God completely flooded it out of existence once....., and a 2nd time he burned a specific city in Gen 18 that was devoted to same lifestyle as found in Noah's day.

People wonder why God eliminated it in the OT, instead of just accepting it as some sort of "civil right"..... And the reason is,  Homosexual desire, is a spiritual infection that manifests  itself  as a sexually depraved lifestyle.. So, God in the Old Testament, on 2 occasions, kept this infection from spreading by doing what He did .   

its more then interesting to note that the main "sign" concerning the 2nd Coming of Christ is that the world will be similar to " in the days of Noe", or "Noah".......... In other words, sexual depravity will be WORLDWIDE  accepted and promoted by the Media and in general it will become culturally and socially normalized as if its a legitimate sexuality..  Co-equal with heterosexuality.

The New Testament defines this time as the "end times" when "strong delusion" has taken hold of most of the unsaved, across the world.

In the USA, its certainly taken hold of the Democrat party.

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