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22 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

I believe the translators got it right.

So then, ...are you saying you believe how men "translate" His Word, ...rather than what God intended it to be understood and mean to/for us?

All of these new "modern" translations are just for the "purpose of making money, ...cashing in on the fact that the Bible is the number one best selling book on the market.

How can I say that?

Because God told us "how" He speaks to us today:

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by "His" Son,  Heb 1:2a

Again, "His" is in italics, ...added by the translators.

How did God speak to man before the "last days?"

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Heb 1:1

That is telling us God spoke through His prophets to the people, ...however, Jesus was the "last" Prophet sent by God to teach His people about Himself, ...so don't bring up Agabus and/or the daughters of Phillip, ...Scripture does not record them teaching about Church doctrine or the character of God.

What the Scripture "does" teach us as to "who" we should be listening to at the Transfiguration:

While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a Voice out of the cloud, which said, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him. Matt 17:5

Jesus was with the "representatives" of the Old Testament prophets, ...Moses and Elijah, ...but God said, HEAR Him!  

So when we plug this into Hebrews 1:2 we learn that "SON" is a language just like English French, Spanish or any other language spoken on this planet, ...the "only "difference is "how" we "hear" or "listen" to it.

Jesus proves this fact by saying, "He who has ears to hear, ...let him hear what the Holy Spirit is saying to the Church."

Everyone on this planet has "ears" to hear, but not everyone can "hear" the Holy Spirit talking.

That means the language "SON" is only "heard" in our hearts, ...and only those that are "born again" can "hear" the Holy Spirit "speaking" to them.

What that means is when we who are born again, having the Holy Spirit living inside of us, read some spurious translation, the Holy Spirit is speaking to our spirit in "SON" and saying, "I have never said that!"

That's why the Hebrew scholars, who translated the original manuscripts, ...by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit living inside of them, didn't say, "and God is angry "with the wicked" every day." Psalms 7:11b, ...Because the Holy Speaking to them in "SON" told them "HE" said, "and God is "NOT" angry with the wicked every day."

You can believe what you want to believe, ...but that doesn't change how God said it or meant it.

Lord bless

 

 

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On 3/19/2020 at 11:30 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said:

God took out His Anger on His Son so that He could extend His Love to all that Believe......

but he is still angry with unbelievers every day

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The Philistines are wiser then the majority of leaders we have today. They made enquiry to try and find out why wrath was on the land and they Got a reply.

Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had wrought wonderfully among them, did they not let the people go, and they departed?

There is a biblical answer, Its at the Cross of Christ.

 

1 Samuel 5 New International Version (NIV)

The Ark in Ashdod and Ekron

After the Philistines had captured the ark of God, they took it from Ebenezer to Ashdod. Then they carried the ark into Dagon’s temple and set it beside Dagon. When the people of Ashdod rose early the next day, there was Dagon, fallen on his face on the ground before the ark of the Lord! They took Dagon and put him back in his place. But the following morning when they rose, there was Dagon, fallen on his face on the ground before the ark of the Lord! His head and hands had been broken off and were lying on the threshold; only his body remained. That is why to this day neither the priests of Dagon nor any others who enter Dagon’s temple at Ashdod step on the threshold.

The Lord’s hand was heavy on the people of Ashdod and its vicinity; he brought devastation on them and afflicted them with tumors.[a] When the people of Ashdod saw what was happening, they said, “The ark of the god of Israel must not stay here with us, because his hand is heavy on us and on Dagon our god.” So they called together all the rulers of the Philistines and asked them, “What shall we do with the ark of the god of Israel?”

They answered, “Have the ark of the god of Israel moved to Gath.” So they moved the ark of the God of Israel.

But after they had moved it, the Lord’s hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.[b] 10 So they sent the ark of God to Ekron.

As the ark of God was entering Ekron, the people of Ekron cried out, “They have brought the ark of the god of Israel around to us to kill us and our people.” 11 So they called together all the rulers of the Philistines and said, “Send the ark of the god of Israel away; let it go back to its own place, or it[c] will kill us and our people.” For death had filled the city with panic; God’s hand was very heavy on it. 12 Those who did not die were afflicted with tumors, and the outcry of the city went up to heaven.

Samuel 6 King James Version (KJV)

And the ark of the Lord was in the country of the Philistines seven months.

And the Philistines called for the priests and the diviners, saying, What shall we do to the ark of the Lord? tell us wherewith we shall send it to his place.

And they said, If ye send away the ark of the God of Israel, send it not empty; but in any wise return him a trespass offering: then ye shall be healed, and it shall be known to you why his hand is not removed from you.

Then said they, What shall be the trespass offering which we shall return to him? They answered, Five golden emerods, and five golden mice, according to the number of the lords of the Philistines: for one plague was on you all, and on your lords.

Wherefore ye shall make images of your emerods, and images of your mice that mar the land; and ye shall give glory unto the God of Israel: peradventure he will lighten his hand from off you, and from off your gods, and from off your land.

Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had wrought wonderfully among them, did they not let the people go, and they departed?

Now therefore make a new cart, and take two milch kine, on which there hath come no yoke, and tie the kine to the cart, and bring their calves home from them:

And take the ark of the Lord, and lay it upon the cart; and put the jewels of gold, which ye return him for a trespass offering, in a coffer by the side thereof; and send it away, that it may go.

And see, if it goeth up by the way of his own coast to Bethshemesh, then he hath done us this great evil: but if not, then we shall know that it is not his hand that smote us: it was a chance that happened to us.

10 And the men did so; and took two milch kine, and tied them to the cart, and shut up their calves at home:

11 And they laid the ark of the Lord upon the cart, and the coffer with the mice of gold and the images of their emerods.

12 And the kine took the straight way to the way of Bethshemesh, and went along the highway, lowing as they went, and turned not aside to the right hand or to the left; and the lords of the Philistines went after them unto the border of Bethshemesh.

13 And they of Bethshemesh were reaping their wheat harvest in the valley: and they lifted up their eyes, and saw the ark, and rejoiced to see it.

14 And the cart came into the field of Joshua, a Bethshemite, and stood there, where there was a great stone: and they clave the wood of the cart, and offered the kine a burnt offering unto the Lord.

15 And the Levites took down the ark of the Lord, and the coffer that was with it, wherein the jewels of gold were, and put them on the great stone: and the men of Bethshemesh offered burnt offerings and sacrificed sacrifices the same day unto the Lord.

16 And when the five lords of the Philistines had seen it, they returned to Ekron the same day.

17 And these are the golden emerods which the Philistines returned for a trespass offering unto the Lord; for Ashdod one, for Gaza one, for Askelon one, for Gath one, for Ekron one;

18 And the golden mice, according to the number of all the cities of the Philistines belonging to the five lords, both of fenced cities, and of country villages, even unto the great stone of Abel, whereon they set down the ark of the Lord: which stone remaineth unto this day in the field of Joshua, the Bethshemite.

19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

20 And the men of Bethshemesh said, Who is able to stand before this holy Lord God? and to whom shall he go up from us?

21 And they sent messengers to the inhabitants of Kirjathjearim, saying, The Philistines have brought again the ark of the Lord; come ye down, and fetch it up to you.

1 Samuel 7 King James Version (KJV)

And the men of Kirjathjearim came, and fetched up the ark of the Lord, and brought it into the house of Abinadab in the hill, and sanctified Eleazar his son to keep the ark of the Lord.

And it came to pass, while the ark abode in Kirjathjearim, that the time was long; for it was twenty years: and all the house of Israel lamented after the Lord.

And Samuel spake unto all the house of Israel, saying, If ye do return unto the Lord with all your hearts, then put away the strange gods and Ashtaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts unto the Lord, and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the hand of the Philistines.

Then the children of Israel did put away Baalim and Ashtaroth, and served the Lord only.

And Samuel said, Gather all Israel to Mizpeh, and I will pray for you unto the Lord.

And they gathered together to Mizpeh, and drew water, and poured it out before the Lord, and fasted on that day, and said there, We have sinned against the Lord. And Samuel judged the children of Israel in Mizpeh.

And when the Philistines heard that the children of Israel were gathered together to Mizpeh, the lords of the Philistines went up against Israel. And when the children of Israel heard it, they were afraid of the Philistines.

And the children of Israel said to Samuel, Cease not to cry unto the Lord our God for us, that he will save us out of the hand of the Philistines.

And Samuel took a sucking lamb, and offered it for a burnt offering wholly unto the Lord: and Samuel cried unto the Lord for Israel; and the Lord heard him.

10 And as Samuel was offering up the burnt offering, the Philistines drew near to battle against Israel: but the Lord thundered with a great thunder on that day upon the Philistines, and discomfited them; and they were smitten before Israel.

11 And the men of Israel went out of Mizpeh, and pursued the Philistines, and smote them, until they came under Bethcar.

12 Then Samuel took a stone, and set it between Mizpeh and Shen, and called the name of it Ebenezer, saying, Hitherto hath the Lord helped us.

13 So the Philistines were subdued, and they came no more into the coast of Israel: and the hand of the Lord was against the Philistines all the days of Samuel.

14 And the cities which the Philistines had taken from Israel were restored to Israel, from Ekron even unto Gath; and the coasts thereof did Israel deliver out of the hands of the Philistines. And there was peace between Israel and the Amorites.

15 And Samuel judged Israel all the days of his life.

16 And he went from year to year in circuit to Bethel, and Gilgal, and Mizpeh, and judged Israel in all those places.

17 And his return was to Ramah; for there was his house; and there he judged Israel; and there he built an altar unto the Lord.

(when we repent and humble our self before God then we can ask of him like Samuel. 

O that people might humble themselves at the foot of the cross Jesus will meet you there)

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On 3/21/2020 at 12:28 AM, Walter Goraj jr said:

"how about you, ...looking back on your life before Christ, ...can't you see the many times He intervened in your life in His Mercy and Grace?"

Yes, and Amen to that. I do believe that God does protect His chosen even before He saves them. In this world it may appear that the wicked are being blessed but everything that they've lusted after will come to an end. They never knew Him.

Yes I also understand italics. But if you just compare verses of how the wicked is being viewed by God you can see that His wrath is upon them so yeah He is angry with them every day....I believe the translators got it right.

Amen(Through his love his not willing that any should perish that why his slow to anger if he wasn't this world would have been judged already)

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On 3/4/2020 at 9:26 PM, R. Hartono said:

People fear Corona but how wud they fear Almighty God Yahwe ? They think Jesus is just a religion.

Thats what I would like to convince all who are terrified of this virus, they haven't seen anything yet if they dont seek Jesus.

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There are FAR worse things coming than COVID 19. We all know that.

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2 hours ago, Salvation67 said:

Thats what I would like to convince all who are terrified of this virus, they haven't seen anything yet if they dont seek Jesus.

Amen God has a lot worse in store and only in Christ is there true refuge. By running to christ we can escape the avenger of blood.

The Lord are rock in him we stand, a shelter in a time of storm

Secure what ever ill betide a shelter in a time of storm.

Jesus 

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