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By the way, I know several ppl who struggle with various sexual sins. From premarital sex to homosexuality. It's not uncommon and there are ministries who seek to help. I realize that there are churches who are afraid of dealing with it, and there are christians who ostrasize those who deal with certain things. But you shouldn't generalize and say that ALL are like that. But you certainly aren't going to build relationships and find someone to help you out if you go in with the type of attitude you seem to have in here already.

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I'm sure they'll be deleted.

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Where did I call you names? :)

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I have moved.
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I thought Jesus called us to love the unloveable, to befriend the friendless. I thought he hung out with the low lifes of society. You're telling me that though I'm in enormous pain I should be friendly to get help from Christians.

Well, yes. If you want help, then it would behoove you not to insult and berate those from whom you wish to seek help. Again, if you are in so much pain, and you are treating other Christians like you are treating us, then what do you expect? BTW showing yourself friendly, comes from Proverbs. It is biblical.

There's a reason people don't turn to the church. They love to shoot the wounded. Meanwhile, the darkside is there with open arms.

No one has hurt you. We have simply expresed a level of honesty that you don't want to face up to. Acting as if Christians owe you something and are required to help you, is exactly why you are in the predicament you are in, and why you have a hard time finding help.

By the way,my biggest problem was that I was misled by a Christian businessman in business dealings. He used his Christianity to get me to trust him, and then reneged on several key things.
Too bad... that does not give you the right to take it out on us.

I'm crazy for Jesus, but have little use for Christians.
Which explains why you are not being well received. Just keep that attitude, and see how far it gets you.

Perhaps if you tried a little more humility, you might get some better responses. Frankly, I have never had to struggle with any sexual sins, so I am not the person to talk to. If you are genuinely struggling with something, then you really need to find professional Christian help.

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I thought Jesus called us to love the unloveable, to befriend the friendless. I thought he hung out with the low lifes of society. You're telling me that though I'm in enormous pain I should be friendly to get help from Christians.

Well, yes. If you want help, then it would behoove you not to insult and berate those from whom you wish to seek help. Again, if you are in so much pain, and you are treating other Christians like you are treating us, then what do you expect? BTW showing yourself friendly, comes from Proverbs. It is biblical.

There's a reason people don't turn to the church. They love to shoot the wounded. Meanwhile, the darkside is there with open arms.

No one has hurt you. We have simply expresed a level of honesty that you don't want to face up to. Acting as if Christians owe you something and are required to help you, is exactly why you are in the predicament you are in, and why you have a hard time finding help.

By the way,my biggest problem was that I was misled by a Christian businessman in business dealings. He used his Christianity to get me to trust him, and then reneged on several key things.
Too bad... that does not give you the right to take it out on us.

I'm crazy for Jesus, but have little use for Christians.
Which explains why you are not being well received. Just keep that attitude, and see how far it gets you.

Perhaps if you tried a little more humility, you might get some better responses. Frankly, I have never had to struggle with any sexual sins, so I am not the person to talk to. If you are genuinely struggling with something, then you really need to find professional Christian help.

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Good-bye. I'm through arguing and I'm through fighting. Listen to the song "Who Will be Jesus". See if the notions ring any bells. You've obviously never been through a dark night of the soul. If you do, I pray you find some loving Christians who are more interested in you and your soul, not how friendly you are.

By the way, I believe Christians are required to help. "As you argued with the least of these..."

You're response is so typical. Christians try to argue you into submission, not show love. The darkside just says welcome.

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Guest shiloh357
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I thought Jesus called us to love the unloveable, to befriend the friendless. I thought he hung out with the low lifes of society. You're telling me that though I'm in enormous pain I should be friendly to get help from Christians.

Well, yes. If you want help, then it would behoove you not to insult and berate those from whom you wish to seek help. Again, if you are in so much pain, and you are treating other Christians like you are treating us, then what do you expect? BTW showing yourself friendly, comes from Proverbs. It is biblical.

There's a reason people don't turn to the church. They love to shoot the wounded. Meanwhile, the darkside is there with open arms.

No one has hurt you. We have simply expresed a level of honesty that you don't want to face up to. Acting as if Christians owe you something and are required to help you, is exactly why you are in the predicament you are in, and why you have a hard time finding help.

By the way,my biggest problem was that I was misled by a Christian businessman in business dealings. He used his Christianity to get me to trust him, and then reneged on several key things.
Too bad... that does not give you the right to take it out on us.

I'm crazy for Jesus, but have little use for Christians.
Which explains why you are not being well received. Just keep that attitude, and see how far it gets you.

Perhaps if you tried a little more humility, you might get some better responses. Frankly, I have never had to struggle with any sexual sins, so I am not the person to talk to. If you are genuinely struggling with something, then you really need to find professional Christian help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good-bye. I'm through arguing and I'm through fighting. Listen to the song "Who Will be Jesus". See if the notions ring any bells. You've obviously never been through a dark night of the soul. If you do, I pray you find some loving Christians who are more interested in you and your soul, not how friendly you are.

You're response is so typical. Christians try to argue you into submission, not show love. The darkside just says welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I never said I did not have problems. I have Christian friends who have prayed for me, and have been there for me when times were hard. I just didn't act like you do. I had to cultivate those friendships. I had to show myself friendly. I was there for them, and they in turn were there for me. That is how it works.

You said that the people in those churches would not talk to you. You wanted them to care about you, but did you extend that same care to them? Did you even show one bit of concern about the problems they faced? Did you offer your time, prayer, and support to them? In the Body of Christ, we all contribute. We all give. Seems you want to take without having to give much, or show much gratitude.

Guest harkaro
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There are Christians dealing with this issue. Visit http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com and there is a book called "Secret Sins of the Heart" by a Rev. Wagner that addresses the problem in the church and what needs to be done.


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Grace to you,

Brother part of being a Christian is just being with eachother. At least in my experience. Being there to Love one another. To pray for one another.

It is extremely difficult for someone to be there when your pushing away. :)

Peace,

Dave

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