IN THE MIDST OF COVID19, WHAT'S NEXT IN BIBLE PROPHECY?

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

1 minute ago, dad2 said:

If a guy was buried as you say, how is it they were resurrected also? Seems to me it is one or the other. There is no body in the tomb of Jesus, it is empty.

Jesus was buried, in the sense of being put in a tomb. Moses was buried and we don't know in what way God buried him. But reading between the lines, it is obvious that God raised him. I will say that I expect that his body started to decay immediately upon death, whereas the body of Jesus saw no decay. We also don't know how long Moses' body was in the grave. My guess would be roughly 3 1/2 days, to show that he would return in about 3 1/2 millennia. It is interesting that there are only 4 with immortal bodies in heaven right now: Enoch (Gentile, raptured 7 years before end of 1st millennium), Moses (Jew, resurrected), Elijah (Jew, raptured), Jesus (Jew, resurrected at dawn of the 3rd day to show He would return at dawn of the 3rd millennium, 2030). 4 is a number for Israel: 4 millennia, 1970 BC to 2030 AD.

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

16 minutes ago, dad2 said:

If a guy was buried as you say, how is it they were resurrected also? Seems to me it is one or the other. There is no body in the tomb of Jesus, it is empty.

 

2 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

My guess would be roughly 3 1/2 days, to show that he would return in about 3 1/2 millennia.

Further, maybe 4 days like Lazarus, to show that the resurrection will come at the end of Israel's 4 millennia. Notice that Jesus heard that Lazarus was sick and stayed where He was 2 days longer before coming to raise him. These are the 2 millennia that Jesus stays in heaven until His return.

[dad2]

10 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

Jesus was buried, in the sense of being put in a tomb. Moses was buried and we don't know in what way God buried him. But reading between the lines, it is obvious that God raised him. I will say that I expect that his body started to decay immediately upon death, whereas the body of Jesus saw no decay. We also don't know how long Moses' body was in the grave. My guess would be roughly 3 1/2 days, to show that he would return in about 3 1/2 millennia. It is interesting that there are only 4 with immortal bodies in heaven right now: Enoch (Gentile, raptured 7 years before end of 1st millennium), Moses (Jew, resurrected), Elijah (Jew, raptured), Jesus (Jew, resurrected at dawn of the 3rd day to show He would return at dawn of the 3rd millennium, 2030). 4 is a number for Israel: 4 millennia, 1970 BC to 2030 AD.

Reading between the lines is a good way to put it. God raised others from the dead also. However He was the Firstfruit.

Ac 26:23 - That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

1 Cor 15:53 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
 

 Only Christ rose from the dead. The others that He rose from the dead did not rise but more or less got risen. Nor were they forever risen with eternal bodies.

[dad2]

11 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

 

Further, maybe 4 days like Lazarus, to show that the resurrection will come at the end of Israel's 4 millennia. Notice that Jesus heard that Lazarus was sick and stayed where He was 2 days longer before coming to raise him. These are the 2 millennia that Jesus stays in heaven until His return.

Well if the 3 days really means thousands of year, why not make it millions or billions? If the wait Jesus did to visit His friend represents thousands of years, why not trillions of years? Why insert things?

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

1 hour ago, dad2 said:

Reading between the lines is a good way to put it. God raised others from the dead also. However He was the Firstfruit.

Ac 26:23 - That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

1 Cor 15:53 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
 

 Only Christ rose from the dead. The others that He rose from the dead did not rise but more or less got risen. Nor were they forever risen with eternal bodies.

dad2, Greek for "first" in Acts 26.23:

πρῶτος (prōtos)

Strong: G4413

GK: G4755

first in time, order, etc., Mt. 10:2; 26:17; first in dignity, importance, etc., chief, principal, most important, Mk. 6:21; Lk. 19:47; Acts 13:50; 16:12; as an equivalent to the compar. πρότερος (G4754), prior, Jn. 1:5, 30; 15:18; Mt. 27:64; adverbially, first, Jn. 1:42; 5:4; 8:7

See everywhere prōtos appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.

Note that it can mean: first in dignity, importance, etc., chief, principal, most important.

And 1 Cor 15.23 does not prove your point:

But each in his own order

Resurrection began with Moses in Israel's 1st millennium. His resurrection though depended on the better resurrection of Christ. Sounds like Hebrews.

Christ the first fruits

It continued with Christ, at the end of Israel's 2nd millennium. Greek for "first fruits":

ἀπαρχή (aparchē)

Strong: G536

GK: G569

pr. the first act of a sacrifice; hence, the firstfruits, first portion, firstling, Rom. 8:23

See everywhere aparchē appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.

Christ was the first fruits, the first human living blood sacrifice to God the Father on which all other human "living sacrifices" to God are based, including Moses. Though His resurrection was second in order, it was absolutely first in headship and priority.

after that

No one was resurrected in Israel's 3rd millennium.

those who are Christ’s at His coming

Those who are Christ's will be resurrected at the end of Israel's 4th millennium. First will be the resurrection of those who are Christ's when He comes to receive them 7 years before His final coming. Then Moses and Elijah will be resurrected after they are killed halfway through those 7 years. So, obviously they return with mortal bodies. And then those who are Christ's that die during those 7 years will be resurrected at His final coming and judgment.

 

[dad2]

9 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

dad2, Greek for "first" in Acts 26.23:

πρῶτος (prōtos)

Strong: G4413

GK: G4755

first in time, order, etc., Mt. 10:2; 26:17; first in dignity, importance, etc., chief, principal, most important, Mk. 6:21; Lk. 19:47; Acts 13:50; 16:12; as an equivalent to the compar. πρότερος (G4754), prior, Jn. 1:5, 30; 15:18; Mt. 27:64; adverbially, first, Jn. 1:42; 5:4; 8:7

See everywhere prōtos appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.

Note that it can mean: first in dignity, importance, etc., chief, principal, most important.

And 1 Cor 15.23 does not prove your point:

But each in his own order

Resurrection began with Moses in Israel's 1st millennium. His resurrection though depended on the better resurrection of Christ. Sounds like Hebrews.

Christ the first fruits

It continued with Christ, at the end of Israel's 2nd millennium. Greek for "first fruits":

ἀπαρχή (aparchē)

Strong: G536

GK: G569

pr. the first act of a sacrifice; hence, the firstfruits, first portion, firstling, Rom. 8:23

See everywhere aparchē appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.

Christ was the first fruits, the first human living blood sacrifice to God the Father on which all other human "living sacrifices" to God are based, including Moses. Though His resurrection was second in order, it was absolutely first in headship and priority.

after that

No one was resurrected in Israel's 3rd millennium.

those who are Christ’s at His coming

Those who are Christ's will be resurrected at the end of Israel's 4th millennium. First will be the resurrection of those who are Christ's when He comes to receive them 7 years before His final coming. Then Moses and Elijah will be resurrected after they are killed halfway through those 7 years. So, obviously they return with mortal bodies. And then those who are Christ's that die during those 7 years will be resurrected at His final coming and judgment.

 

 

 First also means first. No one ever rose from the dead themselves but Jesus. He was the firstest and the strongest.

Edited April 17, 2020 by dad2

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

Well if the 3 days really means thousands of year, why not make it millions or billions? If the wait Jesus did to visit His friend represents thousands of years, why not trillions of years? Why insert things?

dad2, it is obvious from the prophetic meaning of the Genesis prologue and biblical chronology:

3970 BC: God and Adam

2970 BC: Lamech and Noah

1970 BC: Terah and Abram

970 BC: David and Solomon

30 AD: Jesus and the Apostles/Early Church

1030 AD: The Cluniac Reform

2030 AD: Jesus at the Second Coming

3030 AD: End of first 1000 years of the Eternal State

Psalm 90:4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

⁴ For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night.

 

2 Peter 3:8 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

⁸ But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

Note the 2000 years there!

[CLIVE CAMPBELL]

9 minutes ago, dad2 said:

 

 First also means first. No one ever rose from the dead themselves but Jesus. He was the firstest and the strongest.

dad2, I never said that Moses rose in his own power. Obviously not.

[dad2]

3 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

dad2, it is obvious from the prophetic meaning of the Genesis prologue and biblical chronology:

3970 BC: God and Adam

2970 BC: Lamech and Noah

1970 BC: Terah and Abram

970 BC: David and Solomon

30 AD: Jesus and the Apostles/Early Church

1030 AD: The Cluniac Reform

2030 AD: Jesus at the Second Coming

3030 AD: End of first 1000 years of the Eternal State

Psalm 90:4 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

⁴ For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night.

 

2 Peter 3:8 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

⁸ But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.

Note the 2000 years there!

The cluniac reform..seriously? The things people won't do to try and make a contrived timeline look important. You then go on to predict a year for His return? Really?

 

Whatever time looks (could look like) to God Almighty, it looks very much like it looks to us down here. A day in creation to God still had a morning and an evening.

[dad2]

6 minutes ago, CLIVE CAMPBELL said:

dad2, I never said that Moses rose in his own power. Obviously not.

No, of course he didn't. Only Jesus did that, and only He rose with an everlasting body...so far. That is because He was the first.