Those who were caught up to the cloud to be with the Lord FOREVER will not be overcome by antichrist, unless you are left behind

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, ENOCH2010 said:

I'll repeat the statement you must have missed it. Please show us where timing can be found. Your above answer has nothing to do with what was asked.

The Scripture in my God Question answer gives all the answers to the timing of the rapture of the Church vs. the second coming. They are two very different events with two very different timings. 

[ENOCH2010]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

The Scripture in my God Question answer gives all the answers to the timing of the rapture of the Church vs. the second coming. They are two very different events with two very different timings. 

But timing cannot be determined from the scripture you quoted. 

[missmuffet]

5 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

But timing cannot be determined from the scripture you quoted. 

Suit yourself. 

[ENOCH2010]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Suit yourself. 

That's the trouble with the pre-trib crowd, they only see what they want to see, not what the Bible says and don't say. 

[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

That's the trouble with the pre-trib crowd, they only see what they want to see, not what the Bible says and don't say. 

That is the pot calling the kettle black. 

[R. Hartono]

13 hours ago, ENOCH2010 said:

But timing cannot be determined from the scripture you quoted. 

Its very clear, the wise virgins are taken to the Feast of the Lamb, but the foolish virgins left behind and yell.

[ENOCH2010]

2 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Its very clear, the wise virgins are taken to the Feast of the Lamb, but the foolish virgins left behind and yell.

Your doing the same thing as missmuffet, no timing can be found in 1 Thes. That scripture ONLY describes the rapture, nothing in those verses even hint about when it happens. 

[R. Hartono]

47 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

Your doing the same thing as missmuffet, no timing can be found in 1 Thes. That scripture ONLY describes the rapture, nothing in those verses even hint about when it happens. 

You don't comprehend why the foolish virgins were left behind n yelled.

[Revelation Man]

On 4/20/2020 at 2:03 AM, R. Hartono said:

The wise virgins shall be saved alive and shall ever be with the Lord.

1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

While on the earth the foolish virgins left behind shall be overcome by the beast :

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

So This explains there are two groups of people in heaven at the time of Great Tribulation :

1. The Great Multitude of 1 Thes 4:16 in living BODIES.

2. The SOULS under the Altar of the dead martyrs overcome by antichrist in Rev 13:7, they were beheaded in the Great Tribulation. These souls came one by one until their number is accomplished.

You are pretty spot on here, although I don't know if the MARTYR'S under the Altar are actually in Heaven or if that is a LIKENESS to what's on earth, remember, our Temple on earth is a replica to what is in Heaven, so maybe this is Symbology. We know they are Judged on earth in Rev. 20:4, but either way, you have the gist of this correct, the minutia is always there on everything............overall, GREAT JOB.

[Revelation Man]

On 4/26/2020 at 2:39 PM, ENOCH2010 said:

That's the trouble with the pre-trib crowd, they only see what they want to see, not what the Bible says and don't say. 

If you can't see the obvious its not our fault brother. Its not really that complicated.