TheBlade Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,265 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,159 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I think things are applied to something Christ never said. So is it "I will spit you out" or "I am about to spit you out"? "to be about to, on the point of; to be destined, must; to intend to; (what is) to come, the future" As you keep reading.. He never spit them out.. never cut them off ..so to speak. Told them what they needed/should do and then said "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent." The ones He was about to..spit out. To he that overcomes.. like.. hey you have nothing to fear you wont taste death. If you suffer or die for me.. your reward is great and your name is written in heaven. Or one can flip...over come or your lost..I will blot your name out! It just for what is written.. its a given my name is already in heaven.. can't be blotted out of the lambs book. Christ said it to the 12.. rejoice that your names ARE written in heaven. So.. they already knew what happens. And I never knew you. He can't lie. He never knew them. Not like He says to the Father.. oops.. remember Danny? Yeah.. I was wrong. I guess I never knew him. lol. The ones He was talking to addressing were? Yeah the onInsert other media es that came out of the great tribulation. He gathered all the nations before him. Not all those in heaven and dead and alive. Just the nations.. and how they treated not the poor or needy but His brethren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TheBlade said: And I never knew you. He can't lie. He never knew them. This verse is used by religious people to try to teach that you can undo the Blood Atonement by doing something wrong, bad, not working, losing faith... etc. Lets look at it. "depart from me, i never KNEW you". So, Jesus would not know the unbeliever as they are not "in Christ", they are not born again. But Jesus would obviously KNOW the born again, as He is IN THEM.>He SAVED THEM, He is THEIR Eternal Life, and their Resurrection. The Born again are "seated in Heavenly Places IN CHRIST.....and "as Jesus IS, ..so are the BORN AGAIN on Earth". WE are also, "Joint HEIRS with Christ". The born again are in Spiritual UNION with God and Christ, right NOW. So, Do you think Jesus could HONESTLY say that after all that, He "didn't know" the born again.? That verse is not talking to the Born Again, they can't "depart" as Jesus said they "will never perish", and that "noonce can take them out of my hand".......and that includes the Person. Edited May 3, 2020 by Behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 516 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,205 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 3,365 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, TheBlade said: I think things are applied to something Christ never said. So is it "I will spit you out" or "I am about to spit you out"? "to be about to, on the point of; to be destined, must; to intend to; (what is) to come, the future" As you keep reading.. He never spit them out.. never cut them off ..so to speak. Told them what they needed/should do and then said "As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent." The ones He was about to..spit out. To he that overcomes.. like.. hey you have nothing to fear you wont taste death. If you suffer or die for me.. your reward is great and your name is written in heaven. Or one can flip...over come or your lost..I will blot your name out! It just for what is written.. its a given my name is already in heaven.. can't be blotted out of the lambs book. Christ said it to the 12.. rejoice that your names ARE written in heaven. So.. they already knew what happens. And I never knew you. He can't lie. He never knew them. Not like He says to the Father.. oops.. remember Danny? Yeah.. I was wrong. I guess I never knew him. lol. The ones He was talking to addressing were? Yeah the onInsert other media es that came out of the great tribulation. He gathered all the nations before him. Not all those in heaven and dead and alive. Just the nations.. and how they treated not the poor or needy but His brethren. If it helps the term “will spit them” is a metaphor used for some other meaning, for no person is actually in Christ’s mouth, as I’m sure you understand.... That which is at stake, that which Christ is warning about, that which is in danger, is not ones eternal salvation, but Christ being able to use them as His testimony and as a manifestation of Himself.. Be blessed and thanks for being His, Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 516 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,205 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 3,365 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Eddy Crocker said: Years ago this was revealed to me what the true spewing out of his mouth is. This was demonstrated by Paul in Corinthians 5:1-7 5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: This soul was delivered unto Satan and was spewed out of the mouth of God for the destruction of the flesh that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus Christ. When a soul is spewed unto Satan or delivered unto him this is what helps purge out the old leaven. Sometimes when we are brought to the end of ourselves we can only look up. This is what produces the contrast in our life to help change us for the good so that our spirit can be saved. This spewing out of his mouth was demonstrated through the story of Jonah and the whale. Jonah was being resistant to the will of God because of his lukewarmness. God wanted him to go to Nineveh to prophesy against the city for its wickedness but he tried to flee Gods will for him. This is why he had to have this experience of being spewed out of the mouth of God by a whale to give Jonah the contrast of his disobedience and lukewarmness unto God. Thank you so very much for this post.. I do bear witness with the light that was revealed to you. My heart rejoiced, for I saw the same truth, just being put forth with different words... It was the witness and testimony that was no longer to be manifested... Be blessed as He continues to teach you... A brother in the faith, Not me Edited May 3, 2020 by Not me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.20 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2020 On 5/2/2020 at 10:37 AM, Behold said: Here is what you said. So lets just stay with your QUOTE....ok? OneLight said: Christ did die for our sins, but we first need to repent before they are removed, otherwise, they remain. What you SAID, what you are TEACHING, is that THE BLOOD is not the justification, but that Repentance controls the effect. This is not the case. The NT says..>"all that CALL on the name of the Lord SHALL BE SAVED" Jesus SAYS.. "if you believe in me, you HAVE eternal LIFE". You are teaching that repenting is THE reason God saves, and God says, that FAITH is why the Blood Atonement, is applied. FAITH IS COUNTED AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. NOT REPENTING... So, yeah, what you are teaching is getting old.....very very....old, and tired. Tell me then. Did you repent from your sinful ways when you accepted salvation through Christ Jesus, or did you just thank Him for His salvation and continue on your merry sinful ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, OneLight said: Tell me then. Did you repent from your sinful ways when you accepted salvation through Christ Jesus, or did you just thank Him for His salvation and continue on your merry sinful ways? The way to understand the word "repent" with respect to the Grace of God and the CROSS..... means = to change your mind.. as THAT is the true repentance that leads to Salvation. Think of it like this.. Let say you are a Christ rejector. This means you do not BELIEVE.......You are in fact, an UNBELIEVER. To REPENT OF THIS, is to TURN from this... to change your mind, and BELIEVE....and THIS becomes FAITH, and "faith is counted AS Righteousness". See, we are not talking about what John The Baptist was preaching to the House of Israel before Jesus died on the Cross. Ok? The NT Grace of God "time of the Gentiles" understanding of "repent"... is to repent of your UNBELIEF....and TURN to FAITH IN Christ.. That's true Gospel Repentance. Edited May 3, 2020 by Behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Behold said: Lets look at it. "depart from me, i never KNEW you". May I add one more insight to this... Jesus "knows" everyone, He personally "knit" them together in their mother's womb. Psa 139:15 What is the meaning of He "never" knew you, ...what is found throughout the Word is, ...like a husband "knows" his wife and his wife"knows" him, ...their relationship is an "intimate" relationship, ...many who say they "know" Jesus, ...just know "about" Him, ...they don't know Him personally, ...they don't have an "intimate" relationship with Him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said: May I add one more insight to this... Jesus "knows" everyone, He personally "knit" them together in their mother's womb. Psa 139:15 What is the meaning of He "never" knew you, ...what is found throughout the Word is, ...like a husband "knows" his wife and his wife"knows" him, ...their relationship is an "intimate" relationship, ...many who say they "know" Jesus, ...just know "about" Him, ...they don't know Him personally, ...they don't have an "intimate" relationship with Him. Can you be more "known" by God and Christ, then to be in Spiritual union with them? 3 are ONE. Thats ETERNAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 516 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,205 Content Per Day: 1.42 Reputation: 3,365 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 58 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said: May I add one more insight to this... Jesus "knows" everyone, He personally "knit" them together in their mother's womb. Psa 139:15 What is the meaning of He "never" knew you, ...what is found throughout the Word is, ...like a husband "knows" his wife and his wife"knows" him, ...their relationship is an "intimate" relationship, ...many who say they "know" Jesus, ...just know "about" Him, ...they don't know Him personally, ...they don't have an "intimate" relationship with Him. This is quite good! This, I will take before God, for I see much life and truth in it.. Be blessed for the posting, Not me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted May 3, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,074 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 377 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted May 3, 2020 SO MANY ATTEMPTING AND WILLING TO TRY AND MAKE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST A LIAR --- WILL NEVER EVER WORK 2 TIMOTHY 2:19 nevertheless the foundation of GOD standeth sure having this seal THE LORD knoweth them that are HIS and let every one that nameth the name of CHRIST depart from iniquity ACTS 3:26 unto you first --GOD-- having raised up --HIS SON JESUS-- sent HIM to bless you in turning away everyone of you from his iniquities ROAMNS 10:13 for whosoever shall call upon the name of THE LORD shall be saved 1 CORINTHIANS 1:2 unto the church of GOD which is at Corinth --to them that are sanctified-- in CHRIST JESUS called to be saints with all that in every place call upon THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD both theirs and ours JOHN 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest ME out of the world thine they were and thou gavest them ME --- AND THEY HAVE KEPT THY WORD --- JOHN 17:14 I HAVE GIVEN THEM THY WORD AND ---THE WORLD HATED THEM--- BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD EVEN AS I AM NOT OF WORLD --- JOHN 17:16 they are not of the world even as I am not of the world ---17:17-- sanctify them through thy truth thy word is truth LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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