What Is Sin?

[johnthebaptist]

8 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Non sequitur. Of course you do. Do you ever come here to learn from what others share?

 

Is there some objective evidence of what was claimed that can be presented for the benefit of the readers (and yourself?? 

 

I'm hear to share what I've learned. You can learn from me or not.

[Fidei Defensor]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

I'm hear to share what I've learned. You can learn from me or not.

Goes both ways, you can learn from others too. 

[johnthebaptist]

5 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Goes both ways, you can learn from others too. 

Anything you want me to know?

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, Josheb said:

I would not use those terms without further definition because they are taken from the KJV, a translation that is more than 400 years old and not reflective of today's English (or, in all cases, the original Hebrew and Greek), but in general...

... yes, righteousness does include hagnotēti,  nēpsate, and tapeinophrosune, but not at the expense of others attributes of righteousness such as boldness and our identity in Christ as royal priests, and definitely not at the expense of agapē. Curious selection of words considering the practice of judging others absent any evidence is neither chaste, sober, or humble. 

Out of all the possibilities asserted in scripture, how did you come to select chastity, sobriety, and humility? 

We need to be chaste, sober, and humble.

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, Josheb said:

That is not an answer to the questions asked. 

 

Do you ever come here to learn from what others share?
Is there some objective evidence of what was claimed that can be presented for the benefit of the readers (and yourself)? 

 

These are both valid op-relevant inquires and there is no warrant for avoiding them. An honest and forthcoming "No," would be better than avoidance. 

 

 

Do you ever come here to learn from what others share?
Is there some objective evidence of what was claimed that can be presented for the benefit of the readers (and yourself)? 

I am hear to share what I've learned: The Lord led me to repent of sin I was committing and my life was transformed. What would you teach me?

[Fidei Defensor]

16 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Anything you want me to know?

Well, to repent from sin comes from the word: 

“metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose, to turn from

Original Word: μετανοέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Definition: to change one's mind or purpose
Usage: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.” (Strong’s Concordance on Revelation 3:19). 

Sin in the Greek is “missing the mark [of God's glorious standard].” 

So put together is I missed the mark and now turn from my sin to God’s glorious standard; which is done through faith in Jesus Christ who has cleanses us of all our sins (1 John 1:7). 

Another way of putting it is I miss the mark (sin), I then turn to Jesus Christ for His forgiveness and let Him in me (Colossians 1:27, 1 John 4:15) turn or change my thoughts and actions towards God’s glorious standard. 

Now a query is if Confessing Sins and Repenting of Sin are the same or are they different? 

Repenting of sin when examined in the Greek reads more like Regeneration, while confessing sin is admitting to Christ this is a sin He died for and being sorrowful for it and accepting His free gift of forgiveness.   

See the difference: 

“1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.” ( 1 John 2:1-2)

“Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.” Revelation 3:19

Edited July 26, 2020 by Fidei Defensor

[johnthebaptist]

2 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Yes, I said as much. We need to be chaste, sober, and humble and much more. How is it these three specific attributes were selected apart from all the others scripture requires of us?

 

 

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Much more? The Lord gave us a few commandments to follow and then the Pharisees added tons of them. Don't make this more difficult than you need to.

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Well, to repent from sin comes from the word: 

“metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose, to turn from

Original Word: μετανοέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Definition: to change one's mind or purpose
Usage: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.” (Strong’s Concordance on Revelation 3:19). 

Sin in the Greek is “missing the mark [of God's glorious standard].” 

So put together is I missed the mark and now turn from my sin to God’s glorious standard; which is done through faith in Jesus Christ who has cleanses us of all our sins (1 John 1:7). 

Another way of putting it is I miss the mark (sin), I then turn to Jesus Christ for His forgiveness and let Him in me (Colossians 1:27, 1 John 4:15) turn or change my thoughts and actions towards God’s glorious standard. 

Now a query is if Confessing Sins and Repenting of Sin are the same or are they different? 

Repenting of sin when examined in the Greek reads more like Regeneration, while confessing sin is admitting to Christ this is a sin He died for and being sorrowful for it and accepting His free gift of forgiveness.   

Repentance is a rather simple concept, isn't it?: Do as the Lord instructed. Sometimes maybe we confuse ourselves by making things more complicated than they need to be.

[Fidei Defensor]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

Repentance is a rather simple concept, isn't it?: Do as the Lord instructed. Sometimes maybe we confuse ourselves by making things more complicated than they need to be.

My point is in the original language that the New Teatament was written, Koine Greek, repent reads “turn from sin,” oppose to confessing a sin. 

[Fidei Defensor]

Confessing Sin: Forgive me Lord Jesus, He cleanses you of the sin and guilt.

Repent: Turn from, reform, change the bad lifestyle like alcoholism, more akin to rehab (re-habit, form new habits).  

Edited July 27, 2020 by Fidei Defensor