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57 minutes ago, 0scar said:

Any verse sopporting such heresy

Christians believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man, because the Bible says that he is God and that he is man.  If you don't believe that, then it places you outside the pale of Christianity.

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57 minutes ago, 0scar said:

Any verse sopporting such heresy

Why do you say this is heresy?   Yahshua was both Man and God.   He called himself Son of Man and other times called himself Son of God, both are accurate.  Son of Man refers to those born of Man,  Son of God refers to those born of God.  Yahshua was both Man and God.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Jhn 1:1, 14 KJV

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: - Phl 2:6-7 KJV

 

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3 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Why do you say this is heresy?   Yahshua was both Man and God.   He called himself Son of Man and other times called himself Son of God, both are accurate.  Son of Man refers to those born of Man,  Son of God refers to those born of God.  Yahshua was both Man and God.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - Jhn 1:1, 14 KJV

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: - Phl 2:6-7 KJV

 

Philistines 2:6-7 kjv 

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant,

and was made in the likeness of  men: - Phl 2:6-7 KJV 

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.  

It's of paramount importance that Jesus knew that he has to follow the path to his suffering and the Cross as a Lamb without sin...as the second and last Adam....

Jesus sojourn in the Land of Canaan "in Israel" both North and South kingdom the same way as Adam was before the fall...he was with the Life in him the same way Adam was before he disobeyed God.  Adam was righteous on his own...

That's why we call Jesus the second Adam  ..because he was in the Life of God born this way...and at the same time in his own righteousness...

 

Abraham was offering his Son on the mount Moria...

And God told him that he will provide the Lamb...and he did the Lamb of God who takes the sins of the world....Jesus the man, the Lamb of God...just as Isaac was a man..instant of the sacrificial Lamb..Jesus died on top of the mountain...but God kept away the substitutinal Lamb this time ..it preserve it not to die.   This Barabbas who set free.  

This is similar as in the Law...

The sinner Barabbas was set free and Jesus the Lamb of God the innocent one had to die...

This the same as it took place year after year...

The High Priest put his hand on his chest where the names of the twelve tribes were written...denoting that all the sins of Israel were upon him...and then he puts his hands upon the head of the one of the two Lambs before him ..

All the sins of the Nation were transferred to that Lamb...but the High Priest sacrifices the pure Lamb...

Jesus Christ who died on the Cross was accused as a sinner...how relevant not that he had his own sins...but that he took the sins of the world upon him...

So everyone who believes in him is free from his sins...

Our Judge is the Man Jesus Christ...who still has and forever will have the Mark's of the Cross upon him...And we may say with caution that he looks to us through the nail holes in his hand...He is still and forever will be in his body of flesh as it was at the time of his death...

Moses did not looked the same when he came down from the mountain Sinai...where he was with God...

But when the glory failed away he was still the same...

Jesus glory will never fade away but he will always have the mark's of the Cross on his body  to prove that he is the same one who was put to death on the Cross and who was raised up from the dead in three days..

 

 

Amen...

 

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21 hours ago, David1701 said:

Christians believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man, because the Bible says that he is God and that he is man.  If you don't believe that, then it places you outside the pale of Christianity.

Jesus is fully God and man; not fully God plus fully man


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And Jesus was not omniscient


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34 minutes ago, 0scar said:

And Jesus was not omniscient

If Jesus were not omniscient (He was and is), then he would not have been fully God.  A god without all the attributes of God, is not God.

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2 hours ago, 0scar said:

Jesus is fully God and man; not fully God plus fully man

I don't understand the distinction.


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9 hours ago, 0scar said:

Jesus is fully God and man; not fully God plus fully man

 
 
Have you considered what this scriptures says;
 
Acts 10:38 
New International Version
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

New Living Translation
And you know that God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Then Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

English Standard Version
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.
 
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 
 
What does this scriptures say; 
 
God couldn't go to Hades...before EMANUEL...
Jesus Inheritance at death it was the same as the offsprings of Abraham...
At death he had to descend to the place of the dead in Sheol..Hades..
Man's Inheritance at death was descending. Man did not have a Heavenly Inheritance...
Jesus was the inheritor of Heaven...so he was the first one who died and raised from the dead and ascended to Heaven..
 
 

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On 9/11/2020 at 5:26 PM, David1701 said:

If Jesus were not omniscient (He was and is), then he would not have been fully God.  A god without all the attributes of God, is not God.

Omniscience is not a divine atribute

Jesus did not know the day of his return.  Jesus is not omniscient.


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On 9/12/2020 at 2:38 AM, Your closest friendnt said:
 
 
Have you considered what this scriptures says;
 
Acts 10:38 
New International Version
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

New Living Translation
And you know that God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. Then Jesus went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

English Standard Version
how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.
 
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 
 
What does this scriptures say; 
 
God couldn't go to Hades...before EMANUEL...
Jesus Inheritance at death it was the same as the offsprings of Abraham...
At death he had to descend to the place of the dead in Sheol..Hades..
Man's Inheritance at death was descending. Man did not have a Heavenly Inheritance...
Jesus was the inheritor of Heaven...so he was the first one who died and raised from the dead and ascended to Heaven..
 
 

Correct. Thanks

Jesus did not have any divine power by himself, he had the power gived by God... as a prophet does

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