Deadworm Posted September 2, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 300 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2020 "The books he removed had been added, erroneously, by the Romanists, so they needed to be removed, to restore the Bible to only those books that were inspired. The Holy Spirit would have led him to do that." Wrong again! The books were already in the Septuagint, the Greek Bible of the Diaspora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkins Posted September 4, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 289 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted September 4, 2020 Faith alone means it is specified in the New Covenant that humans are saved by faith alone but not the work of Law. Bible alone is that the authority on explaining what the Bible says doesn't belong to a particular physical church such as the RCC. God's Church on earth is composed of many physical churches and denominations under the new era of reformation. These churches with their salvation power can be identified by the statements in the Apostles' Creed. "Bible alone" is rather a denial of the "RCC only" authentication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlade Posted October 19, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,217 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,120 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Well if you search on this.. Catholic pops up allot. So not sure whats really being asked. Is this something to do with "Catholics"? I know how I would understand its meaning..out side of Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 11:39 AM, enoob57 said: @Saved.One.by.Grace If you research Christian History, you will see that the Canon was a work-in-progress for centuries with some books in and some books out. In 150 AD, Matthew, Mark and Luke were brought together. In 200 AD, the four gospels, Acts, Paul's letters, James, 1 & 2 John, Jude, the Revelation of John, the Revelation of Peter, and the Wisdom of Solomon made up the NT; and The Shepard of Hermas was added to the OT. In 250 AD, Hebrews, James, 2 Peter, 2 & 3 John, Jude, The Shepard of Hermas, Letter of Barnabas, Teaching of Twelve Apostles, and the Gospel of the Hebrews were all disputed. In 300 AD, the authorship of the Revelation of John was disputed. The following books were to be excluded: The Shepard of Hermas, Letter of Barnabas, Gospel of the Hebrews, Revelation of Peter, Acts of Peter, and the Didache were to be excluded. The New Testament for the West was fixed by the Council of Carthage by 397 AD, called by a German Bishop named Denzinger. It was also determined that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in the Church under the title of divine Scriptures. The Canonical Scriptures are these: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two books of Paraleipomena, Job, the Psalter, five books of Solomon, the books of the twelve prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two Books of the Maccabees. So is this the Canon you're referring to? Source: Councils of Carthage Also used as a source, my personal copy of Eerdman's Handbook to the History of Christianity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 21, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,193 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted October 21, 2020 nope the Jews never recognized these as prophets from God... that's why it is called 450 silent years... Malichi to John The Baptist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 4:34 PM, enoob57 said: nope the Jews never recognized these as prophets from God... that's why it is called 450 silent years... Malichi to John The Baptist The Jews don't recognize John the Baptist as a prophet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Just now, Saved.One.by.Grace said: The Jews don't recognize John the Baptist as a prophet. The early Christians had a different Canon as I've shown above in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted October 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, anynmsfmly said: So,........ Is a deuterocanonical Old Testament Bible, Is it any different from a kjv Christian Bible........ ? ? ? Here is the skinny on that Any: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books One the KJV Christian Bible, which one do you mean? When the KJV was published in 1611, it that the apocrypha, the books that the Roman Catholic Church still keeps in the Bible. Most protestants just reject them, as inspired by God, so typically pay little if any attention to them, except as an historic curiosity. As protestantism sought to get back to the Bible, sola scriptura - Bible only, they not only wanted to get rid of the beliefs and practices that Roman Catholicism and added to the faith over the centuries, the considered when they were trying to agree on a protestant canon, that the apocrypha really had no places, since even Jews rejected those books as inspired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 The reformation scripture is not the same as early church. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted October 23, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted October 23, 2020 While to is good to study second temple Jewish literature and avail yourself of all writings, just because the Rabbis disallowed some writings does not mean we should. They typically got rid of anything that mentioned THEIR OWN 'two persons of the Godhead' teachings and many that referenced the Messiah. Read BETWEEN the lines and you will be well informed. Remember, the LXX was disallowed in favor of the new abridged Masoretic text. Read and understand WHY. What we call 'scripture' today is not like the books that Yeshua and the apostles read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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