The Problem With Kids Today...

[BeauJangles]

1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

Yes. And if one parent stood firm he was marginalised using the state as a policeman and eventually cast out on his ear... Hmm, where have I heard of that before? But men rarely complain since they have been branded as weak and ineffectual in a world of internet harassment for 'bad dads'. It will only get worse and the state then becomes one or more of the parents and the shrinks that love the money can say what they like. The kids are taught all their problems are from the 'cast off' person and then must endure psychological evaluations to keep the system going. 

Very true, brother. If the parents are emotionally dysfunctional, are the children not expected be likewise?

[BeauJangles]

2 hours ago, IloveyouGod. said:

Why do kids act the way they do today:

It really all starts with public school, they are not taught to think.  Instead they are taught to go along with the crowd which leaves no room for free thinkers,  then there is the parents.   They are not allowed to ever tell their kids no that is unacceptable.   They let them run around like lunatics and have free reign on anything and everything.   Most of this is simply started by the facts that the popular culture is fighting against anything that even slightly reminds them of God's rule.   

This is also very true. When it comes to raising children those who take the active role in participation would be the educators and not just the parents. They also spend a lot of hours in the children's day teaching not only knowledge, but ethics and standards of decency. Sometimes there isn't enough allotment of time factors to instill a better sense of good citizenship as well as sportsmanship.

Of course there's two sides of the coin. If there's no balance between parents and teachers it then becomes unbalanced as a result. One can't pick up the lack for the other. I speak as a former instructor and educator. I've been there in the most unfortunate classroom settings, with the most disadvantaged situations. It's very challenging and difficult. Some of the stories I could tell would bring tears to the eyes. 

[BeauJangles]

1 hour ago, DDisconnect said:

Ok boomer.

Who or what is a boomer? Oh. Baby boomer? Irrelevant and inconsequential. This issue is timeless. 

1 hour ago, DDisconnect said:

Sorry, I had to.

I see. 

1 hour ago, DDisconnect said:

The rules of the internet demands it.

I've been online since 1998, so I'm relatively a "late bloomer" on these so-called rules. I do know internet etiquette, however. Thank you very much. 

1 hour ago, DDisconnect said:

No disrespect intended.

Okay. I'll attempt not seeing the insult slinging for what was pretty obvious and  apparent. 

1 hour ago, DDisconnect said:

This problem is made worse, I  think, with internet and news.

Perhaps. The problem existed far previous to the invention and discovery of the internet. That's also very obvious. The world wide web only accentuated the entire situation, but not a factor for cause or blame. 

2 hours ago, DDisconnect said:

Finally, the traditional family unit not being as common anymore and the world seems almost built against it.

So it seem by all appearances. Family tradition flew out the window generations ago. 

2 hours ago, DDisconnect said:

So you see less and less children in responsible homes (more in irresponsible ones) and both parents often have to work in order to get by. Not unless one of them makes enough income for two, but I know many couples who both work despite having enough just because they want more. This often leaves children without proper guidance, raised by tv and the internet, just not a great recipe for success, you know?

Agreed. 

[BeauJangles]

Wow. Sorry - I goofed posting and hit the back button on my mouse! 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by BeauJangles

[BeauJangles]

1 hour ago, Mantis said:

The short attention span is due to five minute YouTube videos.

They have great attention and focus for video gaming also. Amazingly so to the point of ignoring vital issues. Like listening to their parents by using their "block" mechanisms. It's astounding! 

1 hour ago, Mantis said:

They don’t have patience for anything over a few minutes to learn.

My three step sons had great patience to learn a new and challenging video game. The goal was the gratifications of the "reward system" of gaming. Which would be this: WIN!

1 hour ago, Mantis said:

The social media has turned them into the selfy generation. It’s all about me, look at me, look at my life. It’s totally self centered and narcissistic. I hate it. My daughter will have nothing to do with God. It’s all about the world and what they want in it.

This self centeredness factor tends to cause a sense of inclusion of only what personally concerns them and only them. Everyone and everything else is secondary. Yet another personal frustration and an off-shoot of apathy. It's horrendous watching such lack of care for others. Just pitiful. 

[Marathoner]

Since it only seems like yesterday when I was 19 and a new recruit in the U.S. Army --- I remember thinking I'd never make it to the ripe old age of 40 --- I understand where you're coming from, brother. I did indeed surpass the "old age" of 40 (hehe) and God willing, I'll see 60 before my appointed time comes. I made friends with people who were older... I seemed to get along well with folks who were more experienced and wise than I was. I listened to what they had to say and they, in turn, were reminded of their younger days in my company. I absorbed a great deal of knowledge from my elders because I listened to their words. 

This is lacking in the culture of today, @BeauJangles. Elders are treated like a burden instead of a treasure, pushed aside in favor of youth. Everywhere you look youth is celebrated and even worshiped, staring back at you from advertisements, blaring from music, and broadcasted in media presentations. This culture lacks roots as a result. Notice how elder politicians are accused of senility even by their peers!

Old age is an honor and gray hair is a crown of glory. Our elders are worthy of respect; we should defer to them and care for them as they surely cared for us during the days of our youth.

A gray head is a crown of glory;
It is found in the way of righteousness.
(Proverbs 16:31)



 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Marathoner
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[Henry_iain]

I had the privilege of getting to know all my grandparents and many great aunts and uncles, some of who I visited often. My grand mother was a financial manager of an old age home, and I sometimes went with her when she went there. I will forever be thankful for their kindness, generosity and wisdom that taught me so my much 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Henry_iain

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, Henry_iain said:

Can I get an idea of what people consider to be young? I am 35 years old.

Fascinating, brother. I wouldn't have guessed that age based upon the timbre and content of your posts. I figured you were at least fifty-something like I am.  

Ah, but then I shouldn't be surprised considering you frequent the company of your elders. When I was a squirt I preferred to hang around adults than play with children my age. My brain was a sponge!

In my estimation you occupy the outer fringe of youth but I refer only to chronological age. For me, 40 was the starting point of pain which was notably absent prior to middle age. This was when a developmental defect of the spine was discovered by virtue of that atrocious pain; I was oblivious when I was a younger man. I deem middle age to be the end of youth.   

[BeauJangles]

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

I think I can safely say that I get on well with you  . Actually I tend to get on best with children, or with seniors. 

I feel the same way and have a real heart for both the young and old. Here is why. I have such vivid recall of my youthful past and the numerous battles growing up and had to struggle with. Difficult as it was, the young people of today face such a satanic bombardment of peer pressure, internet temptations, and media hype that did not exist in my time. 

As for the aged, I too am now at a ripened season in time. And my heart strings are tugged at watching them quickly fading from this world onto the threshold of eternity. You see, I am also continually surrounded by those of the elderly. We've got some tremendous people here and they have befriended me as one of them. I'm not far behind where they are.  

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

A great topic which I was hoping someone would start eventually. I will add my bit. 

Thanks, brother. I knew my post to this younger member was going to go unanswered and addressed. So, the idea came to mind about posting my concerns here in a new topic and forum. 

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

Can I get an idea of what people consider to be young? I am 35 years old.

I would never guess you are approximately half my age. You've come to a point of ageless maturity. You and I are very much spiritually attuned like numerous other brothers and sisters here at Worthy. This too has been a great interchange of thoughts and sharing of one another's lives. 

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

Let us speak the truth in love. If we do that it could be a very healthy, long overdue conversation. If we don't it could get heated very quickly.

Amen, brother. I almost lost it on a previous post back on page one of this thread. I'll take that as from the Lord. Thanks for the godly reminder. 

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

Young people face many challenges today that are extremely complex (I know, because I am in such circumstances myself). I do not know what the solutions are or if there are any, but I know that I am really, honestly, doing the best I can with what is available to me. I think, quite simply, young people need the trinity. They need Jesus to save them, the Holy Spirit to convict and guide them and a Father to love and discipline them. I have worked with youth during outreaches and have dealt with extremely difficult people. And in my experience, a mixture of love and discipline always works. Tell them the truth. They will not like it. But afterwards they will realise that they need it and will return for more. At least, that's what worked for the youth I have worked with.

Absolutely. I totally agree with you. Very insightful thoughts here. 

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

But also remember that there are different people, cultures and backgrounds and what works for one person in one generation might not work in the another.

Yes. It's easy to forget this sometimes in an international setting such as this one. 

2 hours ago, Henry_iain said:

Just my thoughts 

Thank you. 

Edited August 17, 2020 by BeauJangles

[BeauJangles]

21 minutes ago, Henry_iain said:

I had the privilege of getting to know all my grandparents and many great aunts and uncles, some of who I visited often. My grand mother was a financial manager of an old age home, and I sometimes went with her when she went there. I will forever be thankful for their kindness, generosity and wisdom that taught me so my much 

Yes, I also had this benefit. Perhaps that started my journey through this life having that advantage. I treasure the many memories of my Granny as she did assist in raising me since childbirth.