Shilohsfoal Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2020 It is written that the beast will kill Jerusalems defenders and capture the city. If we apply common sense to understand who actually wants Jerusalem, who would want it? The United States? Canada? Mexico? China? Russia? Europe? Iran? Syria? Egypt? Brazil? Turkey? Who wants it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENOCH2010 Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 907 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1866 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Satan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: It is written that the beast will kill Jerusalems defenders and capture the city. If we apply common sense to understand who actually wants Jerusalem, who would want it? The United States? Canada? Mexico? China? Russia? Europe? Iran? Syria? Egypt? Brazil? Turkey? Who wants it? Its not about Israel ONLY. Its about being a Beast over the Mediterranean Sea Region, just like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece were. Then came the Roman Empire Beast who DIES the Death of the 7 Headed Figurative Beast. There will not be another Beast over Israel AND the Mediterranean Sea Region again until the Anti-Christ comes along. (The Bible is about Israel) Most people miss THE MANY. Its Israel and THE MANY. Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy MANY: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant WITH MANY for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north(Anti-Christ/Beast) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon (The Petra/Bozrah area). So, its not who wants it, its who is the Anti-Christ, and where is he from, and the bible tells us, hes Born in Greece (Dan. 8:9 tells us that). Then in Dan. 7 we see he comes to power by ARISING up amongst the 10 Kings (which means a FRACTURED Europe) it doesn't mean 10 Kings, it means a COMPLETE Europe which is fractured into a varied number of kingdoms. Just like Rev. 2:10 and the Church having TRIBULATION for 10 days means for the complete time of the Church Age. And hes an Assyrian Turk by birth as Isaiah chapter 10 says. So, hes a Turk (Assyrian), born in Greece who comes to power as President of the E.U. And we know the E.U. currently has 7 year "AGREEMENTS" with all of the Nations the Beast is supposed to Conquer. SEE BELOW: In Orange. All the Nations in Orange, the European Union currently has 7 Year Agreements with, these are THE MANY spoken of in Dan. 8:25, Daniel 9:27 and in Dan. 11:40-43. Now we can look at a map of the Old Roman Empire and see why this Beast via the Anti-Christ is deemed to be the rebirth/SON of the Old Roman Empire. Combine the Orange Nations, which the Blue European Union will Conquer as Dan. 11:40-43 shows and thus we get the two Kingdoms that look IDENTICAL in land mass. The SON...............of PAPA. They both cover EVERY SQUARE INCH of the Mediterranean Sea Regions Coastline, none of the other Empire were close to looking like this, they were all far more Eastern Centric. People who deny all these facts are pretty much just in denial. But, all I can do is put the facts out there. Edited August 24, 2020 by Revelation Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,629 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: It is written that the beast will kill Jerusalems defenders and capture the city. I'd like to read about this. Chapter and verse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Diaste said: I'd like to read about this. Chapter and verse? https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-7.htm https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-8.htm They will defend Jerusalem for 42 months. After that the beast overcomes them and kills them. The attack is also mentioned here briefly.. https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-40.htm After Jerusalems defenders lay dead in the street, the beast ransacks the houses, rapes the women and leads many away into captivity. https://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-2.htm As mentioned in Revelation, 3 days after the beast has taken Jerusalem the resurrection occurs. That is when the Lord comes and stands upon the Mt of olives. https://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-5.htm Edited August 24, 2020 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Revelation Man said: Its not about Israel ONLY. Its about being a Beast over the Mediterranean Sea Region, just like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece were. Then came the Roman Empire Beast who DIES the Death of the 7 Headed Figurative Beast. There will not be another Beast over Israel AND the Mediterranean Sea Region again until the Anti-Christ comes along. (The Bible is about Israel) Most people miss THE MANY. Its Israel and THE MANY. Dan. 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy MANY: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant WITH MANY for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north(Anti-Christ/Beast) shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. 41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon (The Petra/Bozrah area). So, its not who wants it, its who is the Anti-Christ, and where is he from, and the bible tells us, hes Born in Greece (Dan. 8:9 tells us that). Then in Dan. 7 we see he comes to power by ARISING up amongst the 10 Kings (which means a FRACTURED Europe) it doesn't mean 10 Kings, it means a COMPLETE Europe which is fractured into a varied number of kingdoms. Just like Rev. 2:10 and the Church having TRIBULATION for 10 days means for the complete time of the Church Age. And hes an Assyrian Turk by birth as Isaiah 19 says. So, hes a Turk, born in Greece who comes to power as President of the E.U. And we know the E.U. currently has 7 year "AGREEMENTS" with all of the Nations the Beast is supposed to Conquer. All the Nations in Orange, the European Union currently has 7 Year Agreements with, these are THE MANY spoken of in Dan. 8:25, Daniel 9:27 and in Dan. 11:40-43. Now we can look at a map of the Old Roman Empire and see why this Beast via the Anti-Christ is deemed to be the rebirth/SON of the Old Roman Empire. Combine the Orange Nations, which the Blue European Union Conquer and you get what looks like The SON...............of PAPA. They both cover EVERY SQUARE INCH of the Mediterranean Sea Regions Coastline, none of the other Empire were close to looking like this, they were all far more Eastern Centric. People who deny all these facts are pretty much just in denial. But, all I can do is put the facts out there. You believe the United States wants Jerusalem? Why? Seriously, if the United States wanted Jerusalem it could have had it decades ago. The whole idea of the king of the north moving the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem was to acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Edited August 24, 2020 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2020 12 hours ago, ENOCH2010 said: Satan Ha! Good answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: You believe the United States wants Jerusalem? Why? Seriously, if the United States wanted Jerusalem it could have had it decades ago. The whole idea of the king of the north moving the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem was to acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel's capital. That makes ZERO SENSE, its incoherent, because I never once mentioned the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 24, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Revelation Man said: That makes ZERO SENSE, its incoherent, because I never once mentioned the United States. You answer with verses about the united states. (the king of the north). The king of the north moved the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem because he calls it Israel's capital. He doesn't want Jerusalem for himself. He will also give Israel a host to help defend Jerusalem from Israel's enemies though he fails to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted August 25, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 5:32 AM, Diaste said: I'd like to read about this. Chapter and verse? I think I've made it clear to the board that I believe Christians should not torment people as the two witnesses do. Im a firm believer that you reap what you sow. That if you kill with the sword, you will also be killed by the Sword. I enjoy challenging people to consider things they often would not consider. It is written that the two witnesses can do miraculous things such as causing it not to rain and fire proceeds out if thier mouths to devour thier enemies. I myself consider this fire proceeding from the mouth a military command of the military offerd to Israel by the king of the north. Now there is yet another instance in Revelation where fire is used. It is of the second beast who makes fire come down from heaven. It has two horns like a lamb and he practices the authority of the first beast. He will give those who dwell upon the earth the mark of the beast. Have you considered its works compared to the two witnesses? Have you considered its two horns and what they represent? It is written that everyone who worships the beast or recieves its mark shall drink from the cup of the wrath of God. Have you considered Babylon is the only place God remembers to give that cup to so to drink? Jesus in the gospel said it would more tolerable in the day of judgment for Sodom than it would be for certain cities in Israel. He said it would be more tolerable for certain cities in Lebanon than it would be for cities in Israel just miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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