Sheep, Wolves and Shepherds

[steve morrow]

STUMBLING 

PROVERBS 4:19  the way of the wicked is as darkness they know not at what they stumble 

1 JOHN 2:10  he that loveth his brother abideth in the light and there is none occasion of stumbling in him  --2:11-- but he that hateth his brother is in darkness and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth because that darkness hath blinded his eyes 

JOB 38:2  who is this that darkeneth counsel with words without counsel 

 

PSALM 119:130  THE  ENTRANCE  OF  THY  WORDS  GIVETH  LIGHT  IT  GIVETH  UNDERSTANDING  UNTO  THE  SIMPLE

PROVERBS 21:16  THE  MAN  THAT  WANDERETH  OUT  OF  THE  WAY  OF  UNDERSTANDING  SHALL  REMAIN  IN  THE  CONGREGATION  OF  THE  DEAD

2 TIMOTHY 2:7  CONSIDER  WHAT  I  SAY  AND  THE  LORD  GIVE  THEE  UNDERSTANDING  IN  ALL  THINGS 

PROVERBS 2:6  FOR  THE  LORD  GIVETH  WISDOM  OUT  OF  HIS  MOUTH  COMETH  KNOWLEDGE  AND  UNDERSTANDING  

 

1 JOHN 2:6  he that saith he abideth in  HIM  ought himself also so to walk even as  HE  walked 

JOHN 5:30  I  can of mine own self do nothing as I hear I judge and  MY  judgement is just because ---I  SEEK  NOT  MINE  OWN  WILL--- but the will of  THE  FATHER  which sent  ME

JOHN 8:54  JESUS  answered if I honor myself  MY  honor is nothing it is  MY  FATHER  that honoreth  ME  of whom you say that  HE  is  your  GOD 

--8:55-- yet you have not known  HIM  but I know  HIM  and if I should say I know  HIM  not I shall be a liar like unto you  ---BUT  I  KNOW  HIM  AND  KEEP   HIS  SAYING--- 

 

EPHESIANS 4:4  there is one body and one spirit even as you are called in one hope of your calling 

JOHN 6:63  it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteh nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life 

 

1 CORINTHIANS 1:10  now I beseech you brethren by the name of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  ---THAT  YOU  ALL  SPEAK  THE  SAME  THING--- and that there be no divisions among you but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement 

 

ECCLESIASTES  5:7  FOR  IN  THE  MULTITUDE  OF  DREAMS  ---AND  MANY  WORDS--- THERE  ARE  ALSO  DIVERSE  VANITIES   BUT  FEAR  THOU  GOD

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  

[David1701]

1 hour ago, steve morrow said:

STUMBLING 

PROVERBS 4:19  the way of the wicked is as darkness they know not at what they stumble 

1 JOHN 2:10  he that loveth his brother abideth in the light and there is none occasion of stumbling in him  --2:11-- but he that hateth his brother is in darkness and walketh in darkness and knoweth not whither he goeth because that darkness hath blinded his eyes 

JOB 38:2  who is this that darkeneth counsel with words without counsel 

 

PSALM 119:130  THE  ENTRANCE  OF  THY  WORDS  GIVETH  LIGHT  IT  GIVETH  UNDERSTANDING  UNTO  THE  SIMPLE

PROVERBS 21:16  THE  MAN  THAT  WANDERETH  OUT  OF  THE  WAY  OF  UNDERSTANDING  SHALL  REMAIN  IN  THE  CONGREGATION  OF  THE  DEAD

2 TIMOTHY 2:7  CONSIDER  WHAT  I  SAY  AND  THE  LORD  GIVE  THEE  UNDERSTANDING  IN  ALL  THINGS 

PROVERBS 2:6  FOR  THE  LORD  GIVETH  WISDOM  OUT  OF  HIS  MOUTH  COMETH  KNOWLEDGE  AND  UNDERSTANDING  

 

1 JOHN 2:6  he that saith he abideth in  HIM  ought himself also so to walk even as  HE  walked 

JOHN 5:30  I  can of mine own self do nothing as I hear I judge and  MY  judgement is just because ---I  SEEK  NOT  MINE  OWN  WILL--- but the will of  THE  FATHER  which sent  ME

JOHN 8:54  JESUS  answered if I honor myself  MY  honor is nothing it is  MY  FATHER  that honoreth  ME  of whom you say that  HE  is  your  GOD 

--8:55-- yet you have not known  HIM  but I know  HIM  and if I should say I know  HIM  not I shall be a liar like unto you  ---BUT  I  KNOW  HIM  AND  KEEP   HIS  SAYING--- 

 

EPHESIANS 4:4  there is one body and one spirit even as you are called in one hope of your calling 

JOHN 6:63  it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteh nothing the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life 

 

1 CORINTHIANS 1:10  now I beseech you brethren by the name of our  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  ---THAT  YOU  ALL  SPEAK  THE  SAME  THING--- and that there be no divisions among you but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement 

 

ECCLESIASTES  5:7  FOR  IN  THE  MULTITUDE  OF  DREAMS  ---AND  MANY  WORDS--- THERE  ARE  ALSO  DIVERSE  VANITIES   BUT  FEAR  THOU  GOD

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST  

You are hiding behind Bible quotes (without any exegesis, or explanation, as to why and how you believe they are applicable to this thread).  It might APPEAR to be honourable only to quote Scripture, but God looks at the heart.

[David1701]

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

False cause fallacy. 

Money does not cause a lack of protection. Neither does money inherently cause lack of protection. 

There is some joining of dots to be done, rather than merely applying a fallacy test to the words posted.  What are the implications of a New World Order man funding a Christian seminary?

[David1701]

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

I reject the premise of a "New World Order,"...

What do you mean?  There are many world leaders who are pushing it, sometimes by that exact name (e.g. Bill Clinton, the George Bushes and, if I recall correctly, Gordon Brown, amongst others), sometimes by another name (e.g. Tony Blair called it "The Third Way").

They are trying to bring it about by using the Hegelian dialectic (thesis - antithesis - synthesis).  They create opposing forces, have them come into conflict, then create synthesis out of the resulting chaos, when everyone has become completely sick of the conflict.

It has been planned for a very long time (just look at the back of an American one dollar note - Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum, if memory serves, which means "Announcing the Birth of a New Secular (or World) Order", along with occult symbolism, e.g. the all-seeing eye of Horus in the pyramid).

This is what the E.U. is all about (and the U.N.).  It is part of the drive for a one-world religion, headed by the anti-Christ (the Pope) and one world political system, with a one world government.

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...and I would ask @Traveler and anyone agreeing with him how they feel about seminaries like Dallas Theological Seminary because they're pumping out some of the most theologically incompetent shepherds in American Church history (i.e. the portion of the Church that is in America). I don't think (I could be wrong) they're taking money from Rockefeller. Alternatively, some of our notable contemporary evangelical leaders (Greg Boyd, John Danforth, Ron Sider, William Dembski, Neil Clark Warren) have come from what or otherwise bastions of liberal theology, social policy, and politics (and money) so money cannot be asserted as wholly causal.

It's obviously not all about money; but it is certainly one factor.

Edited September 18, 2020 by David1701
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[steve morrow]

GOD  DOES  KNOW  THE  HEART  AND  TEACHES  US 

 

MATTHEW 12:35  a good man out of the --GOOD  TREASURE  OF  THE  HEART --bringeth forth good things and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things 

MATTHEW 15:18  but those things which proceed out of the mouth --COME  FORTH  FROM  THE  HEART-- and they defile the man 

MARK 10:18  AND  JESUS  SAID  UNTO  HIM  WHY  CALLEST  THOU  ME  GOOD  THERE  IS  NONE  GOOD  BUT  ONE  THAT  IS  GOD 

LUKE 12:34  FOR  WHERE  YOUR  TREASURE  IS  THERE  WILL  YOUR  HEART  BE  ALSO  

 

PSALM 119:139  my zeal hath consumed me because --MINE  ENEMIES -- have forgotten thy words

PROVERBS 15:6  in the house of the righteous is much treasure but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble  --15:7-- the lips of the wise disperse knowledge but --THE  HEART  OF  THE  FOOLISH-- doeth not so

PSALM 5:8  lead me O LORD in thy righteousness because of mine enemies make thy way straight before my face 

PROVERBS 8:20  I lead in the way of righteousness in the midst of the paths of judgement 

PSALM 119:144  the righteousness of thy testimonies is everlasting give me understanding and I shall live 

 

PSALM 119:157  MANY  ARE  MY  PERSECUTERS  AND  MINE  ENEMIES  YET  DO  I  NOT  DECLINE  FROM  THY  TESTIMONIES  

PSALM  119:138  THY  TESTIMONIES  THAT  THOU  HAST  COMMANDED  ARE  RIGHTEOUS  AND  VERY  FAITHFUL

 

ACTS 10:34  then peter opened his mouth and said --OF  A  TRUTH  I  PERCEIVE  THAT  GOD  IS  NO  RESPECTER  OF  PERSONS   --10:35--  BUT  IN  EVERY  NATION  HE  THAT  FEARETH  HIM  AND  WORKETH  RIGHTEOUSNESS  IS  ACCEPTED  WITH  HIM 

1 JOHN 3:10  in this the children of  GOD  are  manifest and the children of the devil whosoever --DOETH  NOT  RIGHTEOUSNESS  IS  NOT  OF  GOD--neither he that loveth not his brother 

 

*******PSALM 94:15  BUT  JUDGEMENT  SHALL  RETURN  UNTO  RIGHTEOUSNESS  AND  ALL  THE  UPRIGHT  IN  HEART  SHALL  FOLLOW  IT*******

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST