Lazarus

[Trust & Obey]

Hades is hell.

Abraham is NOT in hell.

If what you say is true...why did Jesus enter HEAVEN with the Keys?

No, he went into hell.

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Yomo, I've given scripture substantiating my views. Where is the scripture to substantiate your position?

Here's the misunderstanding. The word "hell" in the Bible is used to translate a few different words; Sheol in Hebrew, and hades & gehenna in Greek.

Gehenna is the lake of fire.

Hades/Sheol is merely the abode of the dead. Guess what... the Bible says that Jesus went to hell!

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Now, did the Holy One (Jesus) suffer in hell? No, of course not. That means that hell does not equate to suffering... except for the use of the word in common usage today. But, not according to biblical doctrine.

[Joy in the Journey]

I have an odd question, perhaps.

[yomotalking]

Hades/Sheol is merely the abode of the dead. Guess what... the Bible says that Jesus went to hell!

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Where in the Bible does it say that Hades is NOT hell??????

[Remnantrob]

Hades/Sheol is merely the abode of the dead. Guess what... the Bible says that Jesus went to hell!

Guess he was a sinner

(for those of u who can't pick up sarcasm, that's what i just attempted to do. )

[Joy in the Journey]

Hades/Sheol is merely the abode of the dead. Guess what... the Bible says that Jesus went to hell!

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Where in the Bible does it say that Hades is NOT hell??????

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Where in the Bible does it say Hades IS hell ? You won't find a chapter and verse saying either Yomo, you kinda have to put two & two together and draw a conclusion based on what is said. I could type it out, but I found a web site that explains it - http://www.biblequestions.org/archives/BQAR162.htm

God bless,

Tim

Edited August 7, 2005 by Joy in the Journey

[Trust & Obey]

Hades/Sheol is merely the abode of the dead. Guess what... the Bible says that Jesus went to hell!

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Where in the Bible does it say that Hades is NOT hell??????

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yomo, again what you are misunderstanding is that in the english Bible the word "hell" is the translated word for 3 different original language words.

When someone says "they are going to hell" today what they are referring to is "gehenna," which is a place of suffering and eternal torment.

But, in the Bible the word "hell" could be indicating "sheol" or "hades." Neither of these two necessarily implies suffering.

You need to get beyond the limited application of the word "hell" in today's usage in order to discern the difference according to scripture.

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wELL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN THEN YOU CAN GO TO HELL ALL THREE OF THEM LOL LOL LOL

[Guest Blessed by Association]

THERE IS ONLY ONE ACCOUNT (RICH MAN AND LAZARUS) THAT SHOWS A MIDDLE PLACE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL AND IT WAS A PARABLE TO SHOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED THE PHARISEES WOULD NOT LISTEN TO JESUS. THEY HAD MOSES AND THE PROPHETS AND STILL DIDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAID SO IF EVEN IF LAZARUS WENT FROM THE DEAD TO WARN THE RICH MAN'S BROTHERS THEY STILL WOULD NOT LISTEN. WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND THERE ARE MANY TEXTS THAT SHOW THAT WHEN YOU DIE YOU SLEEP.

Genesis 2:7 and man became a living soul.

It does not say that God gave man an immortal soul.

equation

Dirt+breath=Living soul

Dirt-Breath= Dead soul

when you die the breath of life goes back to God and you go back to the earth and wait for the resurrection of the just.

YOU DO NOT GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE you go to dust.

[Trust & Obey]

THERE IS ONLY ONE ACCOUNT (RICH MAN AND LAZARUS) THAT SHOWS A MIDDLE PLACE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL AND IT WAS A PARABLE TO SHOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED THE PHARISEES WOULD NOT LISTEN TO JESUS. THEY HAD MOSES AND THE PROPHETS AND STILL DIDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAID SO IF EVEN IF LAZARUS WENT FROM THE DEAD TO WARN THE RICH MAN'S BROTHERS THEY STILL WOULD NOT LISTEN. WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND THERE ARE MANY TEXTS THAT SHOW THAT WHEN YOU DIE YOU SLEEP.

Genesis 2:7 and man became a living soul.

It does not say that God gave man an immortal soul.

equation

Dirt+breath=Living soul

Dirt-Breath= Dead soul

when you die the breath of life goes back to God and you go back to the earth and wait for the resurrection of the just.

YOU DO NOT GO TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE you go to dust.

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Luke 16 is not a parable. It stands in stark contrast to the other parables in that it lists specific names, places, and events.

Even if it were a parable. It is most certainly teaching that there is awareness after death.

So, the "it's a parable" argument, even if it were true (and I hold that it isn't), doesn't negate the teaching of the passage.

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It is given with a number of other Parables in the same chapter

or can we pick and choose what is literal and what is figurative

Edited August 9, 2005 by Blessed by Association