God Is The Original Mathematician

[Speks]

Hello there, Michael. I hope you're keeping well.

I understand the divisions in the Psalms, but in a more general context it can be significant for some of the more knotty (and bizarre?) mathematical speculations that Bible chapter and verse divisions were introduced arbitrarily. 

Strictly speaking Psalm 119 isn't the longest chapter in the Bible. But yes — I'm kinda stating the obvious!

 

[Bandersnatch]

9 hours ago, Speks said:

1) What Bible translation are you referring to?

2)  In which century were verses and chapters introduced into scripture? 

3) Were these chapter and verse divisions divinely inspired?

1) He is referring to EVERY translation having chapters and verses

2) Jerome started versifying Scripture doing sections (I don't recall which, exactly) in the sixth century (500s)

3) Yes, and no and I suspect a "gotcha" is coming. They were added for the sake of clarification of the texts. No texts were changed, but people could read God's word easier. that is why the yes/no answer is correct.

As far as the longest chapter of the Bible. It is written in the form of an acrostic using the Hebrew alphabet aleph, beth, gimel etc. The first letter of each word in the first section begins with, aleph. In the second section, the same pattern holds true using the Hebrew letter beth followed by gimel, etc.

What is amazing is that in some way, EVERY one of the 176 verses save one, it refers to the Law of God. (However, I have not found that exception.) Because several letters have different constructions if they are at the end of words, namely  kat, mem,nun,peh and tzadeh they are not considered in Psalm 119's acrostic

Here is the direct answer you sought:  

The chapter divisions commonly used today were developed by Stephen Langton, an Archbishop of Canterbury. Langton put the modern chapter divisions into place in around A.D. 1227. The Wycliffe English Bible of 1382 was the first Bible to use this chapter pattern. Since the Wycliffe Bible, nearly all Bible translations have followed Langton’s chapter divisions. 

https://www.gotquestions.org/divided-Bible-chapters-verses.html

 

[NotAllThere]

On 9/21/2020 at 4:25 AM, JohnR7 said:

Either everything is a coincidence or nothing is a coincidence. Just like everything in life is a miracle or nothing is a miracle. 

Nope. You've found and got excited about patterns where they're really not there.

If you look for 555, you'll find some amazing correlation. It's the way numbers work. Furthermore, in random events, there are billions of random events every day. It would be strange if some of them were not "coincidence".

And then there are meaningful coincidences, like when my wife twenty years ago prays for my migraine attacks to go an never come back and four years later she asks me if I've had any. And I haven't. And 16 years after that - still none. God dun that. 

[JohnR7]

39 minutes ago, NotAllThere said:

billions of random events every day.

There is no such thing as something intrinsically random. Randomness is an abstract concept that exists only in concept and has no physical basis.

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

There is no such thing as something intrinsically random. Randomness is an abstract concept that exists only in concept and has no physical basis.

I recall studying the subject of randomness many years ago as part of physics. Apparently true randomness isn't possible in physics because of causation. If we were somehow made aware of absolutely all the factors of causation then no element or event would seem to be random but a result of multiple contributing factors.

Having said that I believe God either intervenes or allows outcomes as He wills, according to His Purpose, Plan, and Pleasure.  

Because of our limited capacity to know all causes we perceive things as random, which I believe prevents us from overloading our brains trying to figure out things best left to God. 

[JAG**]

On 9/19/2020 at 5:50 PM, Michael37 said:

Meanwhile, back to the maths...

Sequence of Triangular Numbers:

1st 20 iterations & the *palindrome of their leading edge units.

0,1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55,66,78,91,105,120,136,153,171,190

01360518655681506310

2nd 20 iterations & same palindrome of their leading edge units. 

210,231,253,276,300,325,351,378,406,435,465,496,528,561,595,630,666,703,741,780

* palindrome

[ˈpalɪndrəʊm]

 

NOUN

palindrome (noun) · palindromes (plural noun)

1. a word, phrase, or sequence that reads the same backwards as forwards, e.g. madam or nurses run.

 

ORIGIN

early 17th century: from Greek palindromos ‘running back again’, from palin ‘again’ + drom- (from dramein ‘to run’).

Hannah is also a  palindrome.

Interesting.

 

JAG.

[Michael37]

5 minutes ago, JAG** said:

Hannah is also a  palindrome.

Interesting.

 

JAG.

Thanks @JAG**. Yes. I enjoy exploring the precision involved in Creation as it is an extension of the Creator.  

[Bandersnatch]

If you guys are looking for patterns, then why in the very important π Pi is an irrational number, which means that it is a real number that cannot be expressed by a simple fraction?

 

Why are there no patterns after the decimal point? It should be a simple task, divide the circumference of a circle by its diameter  C/d   Doesn't that put a hole in the hull of your little row boat?

First 1000 decimal places
3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

 

Edited September 23, 2020 by Bandersnatch
National security issue

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Bandersnatch said:

If you guys are looking for patterns, then why in the very important π Pi is an irrational number, which means that it is a real number that cannot be expressed by a simple fraction?

 

Why are there no patterns after the decimal point? It should be a simple task, divide the circumference of a circle by its diameter  C/d   Doesn't that put a hole in the hull of your little row boat?

First 1000 decimal places
3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989

 

I doubt there was a National Security Issue that caused you to edit this post, Bandersnatch.

Great strawman pitch though, as if anyone is claiming all sequences reduce to a predictable, calculable pattern. What can be calculated and predicted with regard to the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is that the answer will not be a round figure. 

I've highlighted some palindromes and segments of repetition.

The 5 & 7 pointers are worth quite a bit. 6 nines straight is superb.

[NotAllThere]

9 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

There is no such thing as something intrinsically random. Randomness is an abstract concept that exists only in concept and has no physical basis.

Two words in refutation. Quantum Electrodynamics. I might say QED! (Joke for physicists there).  But if you don't like the word random, I'll rephrase:

There are billions of events every day. It would be strange if some of them were not "coincidence".  Here's a fun explanation: https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-here-s-how-a-mathematician-dissects-a-choice