Scriptures Your Pastor Avoids (w/ a few exceptions)

[Jedi4Yahweh]

2 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The job of many in the 'church' is to demythologize our scriptures to the point of banality. Look around and see it for yourself.

Some would rather follow candy-coated doctrines of lies that conforms to their lifestyle rather than conform their lifestyle to the truth which can save them.

 

 

[steve morrow]

IS  NOT  BANALITY / UNORINGINALITY  ABSENT  IN  THE  TEACHING  OF  GRACE  ( IGNORED  SCRIPTURES )

 

EPHESIANS 2:8  FOR  BY  GRACE  ARE  YOU  SAVED  THROUGH  FAITH  AND  THAT  NOT  OF  YOURSELVES  ---IT  IS  THE  GIFT  OF  GOD---

--2:9--  NOT  OF  WORKS  LEST  ANY  MAN  SHOULD  BOAST

 

ARE  NOT  THE  WORKS  OF  GOD  IGNORED  BY  THE  WORKS  AND  DEFINITIONS  OF  MAN'S  WICKEDNESS

 

PSALM 33:4  FOR  THE  WORD  OF  THE  LORD  IS  RIGHT  AND  ---ALL  HIS  WORKS---  ARE  DONE  IN  TRUTH 

PSALM 28:4  GIVE  THEM  ACCORDING  TO  THEIR  DEEDS  AND  ACCORDING  TO  THE WICKEDNESS OF  THEIR  ENDEAVOURS  GIVE  THEM  AFTER  THE  WORK  OF  THEIR  HANDS  RENDER  TO  THEM  THEIR  DESERT 

PSALM 92:4  FOR  THOU  LORD  HAST  MADE  ME  GLAD  THROUGH  THY  WORK  I  WILL  TRIUMPH  IN  THE  WORKS  OF  ---THY  HANDS--- 

 

NOT  OF  WORKS  LEST  ANY  MAN  SHOULD  BOAST

ISAIAH 2:8  THEIR  LAND  ALSO  IS  FULL  OF  IDOLS  THEY  WORSHIP  THE  WORKS  OF  THEIR  OWN  HANDS 

ISIIAH 37:19  AND  HAVE  CAST  THEIR  GODS  INTO  THE  FIRE  FOR  THEY  WERE  NO  GODS  BUT  THE  WORK  OF  MENS  HANDS  WOOD  AND  STONE  THEREFORE  THEY  HAVE  DESTROYED  THEM

MICAH 5:13  THY  GRAVEN  IMAGES  ALSO  WILL  I  CUT  OFF  AND  THY  STANDING  IMAGES  OUT  OF  THE  MIDST  OF  THEE  AND  THOU  SHALL  NO  MORE  WORSHIP  THE  WORK  ---OF  THY  HANDS---

 

GRACE  ---  2 TITUS 2:11  FOR  THE  GRACE  OF  GOD  THAT  BRINGETH  SALVATION  HATH  APPEARED  UNTO  ALL  MEN 

--2:12-- TEACHING  US  THAT  DENYING  UNGODLINESS  AND  WORLDLY  LUSTS  WE  SHOULD  LIVE --SOBERLY--RIGHTEOUSLY--AND  GODLY  IN  THIS  PRESENT  WORLD 

1 CORINTHIANS 3:10  ACCORDING  TO  THE  GRACE  OF  GOD  WHICH  IS  GIVEN  UNTO  ME  AS  A  WISE  MASTERBUILDER  I  HAVE  LAID  THE  FOUNDATION  AND  ANOTHER  BUILDETH  THEREON  BUT  LET  EVERY  MAN  TAKE  HEED  HOW  HE  BUILDETH  THEREUPON

PROVERBS 24:3  THROUGH  WISDOM  IS  AN  HOUSE  BUILDED  AND  BY  UNDERSTANDING  IT  IS  ESTABLISHED 

2 TIMOTHY 2:7  CONSIDER  WHAT  I  SAY  AND  THE  LORD  ---GIVE---  THEE  UNDERSTANDING  IN  ALL  THINGS 

ACTS 20:32  AND  NOW  BRETHREN  I  COMMEND  YOU  TO  GOD  AND  TO  THE  WORD  OF  HIS  GRACE  WHICH  IS  ABLE  TO  BUILD  YOU  UP  AND  TO  --GIVE-- YOU  AN  INHERITANCE  AMONG  ALL  THEM  WHICH  ARE  SANCTIFIED 

PSALM 127:1  EXCEPT  THE  LORD  BUILD  THE  HOUSE  ---THEY  LABOR  IN  VAIN--- THAT  BUILD  IT  EXCEPT  THE  LORD  KEEP  THE  CITY  THE  WATCHMAN  WAKETH  BUT  IN  VAIN 

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST 

[TheBlade]

Can I ask how do you know this? Well what I do is I always try to look at things "what if it was me" . So how would I know what any preacher is preaching? In my city alone there are way over 400 Churches so I have no clue what they preached last Sun/Sat or on Wed or any other day. And yet you talk as if you know what scriptures they avoid?  Just not sure how you know what they are not preacher or avoiding.

And context? Never knew you.. this is not any believer today. Those are the nations that He gathers when He returns from what I read. And its what they did to the least of these "my brethren" you did unto me. side note some really love to toss this out at other believers. Not knowing that how they treat that other believer is how they are treating Christ. Context agian.. was first John just talking to Christians? Hmm yes, were those Christians ones that believed they never sinned? Hmm

Bless you.. yes there is a common theme here which you have shared many times before. I

[Speks]

On 10/16/2020 at 4:31 AM, Jedi4Yahweh said:

I edited the title for you if that makes you any happier.  lol

Well, no, not at all. It ain’t what you say, it’s the way that you say it.

With countless 10,000s of pastors and teachers out there, by anyone’s reckoning your heading is a fault-finding accusation impossible to quantify. As another has pointed out: “...you talk as if you know what scriptures they avoid?”
                            
If our full assurance demands a high view of Scripture, we will certainly stand apart from those who prefer a modified Gospel – one that’s ‘cerebrally’ more comfortable. (We don’t have far to look!) This dilution is similar to those mentioned in Isaiah 30 who preferred to speak “smooth things”.

A spineless Gospel is a direct consequence of unbelief, scepticism, incredulity. It’s rooted in a need to conform to society’s expectations. All too often it embraces a Christianised world-view that accommodates secular ideals. Our spiritual enemy works endlessly to contaminate the Truth, often from within.

We can’t stop this. It’s as old as the early Church. Local assemblies must remain faithful in preaching the fullness of Scripture, and consistently distance themselves from those who weaken its authority.

[Don19]

Here’s one that people avoid:

Ezekiel 14:9

King James Version

 

⁹ And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

Or this:

 

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

King James Version

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

The Bible itself confuses and deceives men who do not know the Truth. Case in point, most in this world who profess to follow Christ believe they literally eat His body and drink His blood at communion. And they are deceived even by the Scripture itself. 
 

So while God’s word is entirely true, one must be spiritual to understand spiritual things. A carnal interpretation is death. 
 

The tree is known by its fruit. Case in point, apple trees produce apples. A corrupt tree produces the righteousness of man, which is as filthy rags. A good tree produces the righteousness of Christ. Idolatry is worshipping the works of your own hands (Isaiah 2:8).

[Jedi4Yahweh]

5 hours ago, Don19 said:

Here’s one that people avoid:

Ezekiel 14:9

King James Version

 

⁹ And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

Or this:

 

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

King James Version

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

The Bible itself confuses and deceives men who do not know the Truth. Case in point, most in this world who profess to follow Christ believe they literally eat His body and drink His blood at communion. And they are deceived even by the Scripture itself. 
 

So while God’s word is entirely true, one must be spiritual to understand spiritual things. A carnal interpretation is death. 
 

The tree is known by its fruit. Case in point, apple trees produce apples. A corrupt tree produces the righteousness of man, which is as filthy rags. A good tree produces the righteousness of Christ. Idolatry is worshipping the works of your own hands (Isaiah 2:8).

God promised he would send a strong delusion that people would believe a lie in the last days.  Unfortunately many that call themselves Christians have fallen for the lie. This is the lie, that they can continue to live in sin and still in enter the Kingdom of Heaven.  Its the same lie that Satan deceived Eve with: Surely you will not die if you disobey God.   Here is why they have been deceived because they love their sin more than God and they refuse to come to light least their sins be exposed. (John 3:19-21)  They dont want let go of their sinful life.  They want a doctrine that allows them keep their sins.  They love to quote Paul while intentionally ignoring the teachings of our Messiah and his chosen Apostles which I stated in my original post, but even their favorite author Paul contradicts their doctrine.  Paul says if you think you can continue to live in unrighteousness/sin and enter the Kingdom of God you have been deceived.

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [1Co 6:9-10 NKJV]

"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. "For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. "But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God." [Jhn 3:19-21 NKJV]

 

[Don19]

1 hour ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

God promised he would send a strong delusion that people would believe a lie in the last days. 

The motions of the apostasy, or mystery of iniquity, were already at work in Paul's day, as he plainly says in 2 Thess 2. Moreover, he says grievous wolves will enter once he departs (Acts 20:29). The apostasy has unquestionably been away from grace and towards law. 2 Thess 2 is a prophecy about the coming of the man of sin (the pope) and Catholicism teaches a plan of salvation similar to yours. Likewise, 1 Tim 4:1-3 unmistakably identifies Catholicism with the apostasy.

 

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Unfortunately many that call themselves Christians have fallen for the lie. This is the lie, that they can continue to live in sin and still in enter the Kingdom of Heaven. 

And yet Paul explores this idea at length in Romans 6. Nowhere does he say that loss of salvation is a possibility. Rather, he asks how shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein. That is, being dead to sin, we are not slaves to the corruption that is in the world. That is, we have an eternal inheritance that is 100% guaranteed; this is the promise of the Spirit. This is the earnest (which means "pledge") of the Spirit (Eph 1:13-14, 2 Cor 1:21-22). And because of this, we are not debtors to live after the flesh and mind the things of this sinful, corrupt world. Chasing fleshy pleasures is what those who are under the law desire to do, though they may restrain themselves. But law does not destroy the lusts of the flesh, only the Spirit does (Gal 5:16-17).

 

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Its the same lie that Satan deceived Eve with: Surely you will not die if you disobey God.

Adam and Eve became aware that they were naked, and hid from God. They died that very day, because God said that they would die in the very same day they ate of the fruit. The death was a spiritual one, because their eyes were opened and they knew good and evil. So they hid from God, because they knew they were evil. The Bible warns about the very same sort of spiritual death to those who walk after the flesh even if born again (Rom 8:13, James 5:19-20), but this is not eternal damnation because those who are in Christ are not subject to condemnation (Rom 8:1). But just as God clothed Adam and Eve, so too are those who are in Christ clothed with His righteousness. So we are not naked, even if we know good and evil. So we walk in the Spirit, basking in the love of God, knowing that we cannot be condemned (Romans 8:28-39). Having a clean conscience, because those who are in Christ have had our consciences purges of sins (Heb 10:2), so we don't hide from God.

John 4:13-14:

¹³ Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

¹⁴ But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

That well of water in the born again child of God will still continue to spring, even if the Spirit is grieved for a season.

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   Here is why they have been deceived because they love their sin more than God and they refuse to come to light least their sins be exposed. (John 3:19-21)  They dont want let go of their sinful life.  They want a doctrine that allows them keep their sins.  They love to quote Paul while intentionally ignoring the teachings of our Messiah and his chosen Apostles which I stated in my original post, but even their favorite author Paul contradicts their doctrine.  Paul says if you think you can continue to live in unrighteousness/sin and enter the Kingdom of God you have been deceived.

Jesus taught very clearly about eternal security (John 10:27-29). But all the parables and other hard sayings that would appear to teach otherwise are to hide truth from those who are not His sheep (Matthew 13:10-17).

 

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Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [1Co 6:9-10 NKJV]

 

The context here is about believers taking other believers to court before unbelievers. Paul blasts that idea, pointing out that the saints shall judge the world, and that the saints are therefore much more fit to judge the things pertaining to this world. In Paul's doctrine, the unrighteous are those who are under the law (even Gentiles without the Law of Moses - see Rom 2:14-15 and Gal 3:23-25). Paul says in Rom 7:7-9:

⁷ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

⁸ But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

⁹ For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

 

Those who are without Christ still belong to this sin principle, because they are under law, not grace. They may be like Pharisees, though: externally righteous, but inwardly uncircumcised in heart, not having the Spirit of Christ. But Paul teaches that it is the grace that has appeared to us (not the law) that teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts (Titus 2:11-12). Grace does this, not law. Law only makes sin more sinful. See Romans 7:13: Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Edited October 19, 2020 by Don19

[Jedi4Yahweh]

1 hour ago, Don19 said:

The motions of the apostasy, or mystery of iniquity, were already at work in Paul's day, as he plainly says in 2 Thess 2. Moreover, he says grievous wolves will enter once he departs (Acts 20:29). The apostasy has unquestionably been away from grace and towards law. 2 Thess 2 is a prophecy about the coming of the man of sin (the pope) and Catholicism teaches a plan of salvation similar to yours. Likewise, 1 Tim 4:1-3 unmistakably identifies Catholicism with the apostasy.

There are plethora of scriptures about believers being deceived and falling away from the truth.   Paul even warns of believers being deceived and falling way from the truth.  The parable of sower, Jesus clearly says believers will be deceived and fall away due to cares and pleasures of sin.

1 hour ago, Don19 said:

And yet Paul explores this idea at length in Romans 6. Nowhere does he say that loss of salvation is a possibility. Rather, he asks how shall we who are dead to sin live any longer therein. That is, being dead to sin, we are not slaves to the corruption that is in the world. That is, we have an eternal inheritance that is 100% guaranteed; this is the promise of the Spirit. This is the earnest (which means "pledge") of the Spirit (Eph 1:13-14, 2 Cor 1:21-22). And because of this, we are not debtors to live after the flesh and mind the things of this sinful, corrupt world. Chasing fleshy pleasures is what those who are under the law desire to do, though they may restrain themselves. But law does not destroy the lusts of the flesh, only the Spirit does (Gal 5:16-17).

Salvations is guaranteed to those that endure till the end and dont fall away.  I dont buy your Calvinist false doctrine of once saved always saved.  As mentioned above why would Jesus and all the apostles warn of deception and falling away from the truth. 

[Jesus said] And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. [Mar 13:13 NKJV]

For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire." [2Pe 2:20-22 NKJV]

How can it better if they had never know the Messiah if then to turn away from him and fall back in Sin?? 

1 hour ago, Don19 said:

Those who are without Christ still belong to this sin principle, because they are under law, not grace. They may be like Pharisees, though: externally righteous, but inwardly uncircumcised in heart, not having the Spirit of Christ. But Paul teaches that it is the grace that has appeared to us (not the law) that teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts (Titus 2:11-12). Grace does this, not law. Law only makes sin more sinful. See Romans 7:13: Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

You don't know what grace is?  You think grace is a free pass to live in sin. So what your saying Jesus died so that you can continue to live in sin. You have been deceived! Grace is the power of God to live sin free according to his righteousness and will.   Jesus did not nail the Law to the cross he nailed your transgressions of the Law to the cross.  God's law is eternal.  Its still not ok to server other gods, blasphemy his name, commit murder, adultery, steal, lie, dishonor your parents or lust after evil things.  Jesus died to set you from sin, and not so that you can continue to live in sin.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [1Jo 3:4-6 KJV]

If you think its okay to continue in sin then you have never known our Messiah as stated above and below.

Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. [1Jo 3:4-9 ESV]

The new covenant is God putting his Law inside of you to obey, he did not do away with Law:

"Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." [Jer 31:31-34 ESV]

This is what is means to be born again:

And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. [Eze 11:19-20 KJV]

Edited October 20, 2020 by Jedi4Yahweh

[Don19]

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Salvations is guaranteed to those to endure till the end and dont fall away.  I dont buy your Calvinist false doctrine of once saved always saved.  As mentioned above why would Jesus and all the apostle warn of deception and falling away from the truth. 

[Jesus said] And you will be hated by all for My name's sake. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. [Mar 13:13 NKJV]

Because this is referring to 70 AD. Many Christians were saved (in time) by heeding Jesus's words to flee to the mountains. Nothing to do with eternal salvation.

As for once saved, always saved:

Romans 8:28-39:

²⁸ And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

²⁹ For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

³⁰ Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

³¹ What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

³² He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

³³ Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

³⁴ Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

³⁵ Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

³⁶ As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

³⁷ Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

³⁸ For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

³⁹ Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire." [2Pe 2:20-22 NKJV]

How can their better if they had  know the Messiah if then to turn and away from him and fall back in Sin??

Peter turns his attention away from merely false teachers, which he talked about in most of 2 Peter 2, to their victims in 2 Peter 2:18-22. The false teachers are servants of corruption (2 Peter 2:19). If those who are slaves of Christ are brought back to serving corruption by false teaching, it is a worse state than if we'd not known the truth. If you won the lottery, and then spent all the money you won, you're in a worse state afterwards, even if you have the same amount of money as when you started. But though we may fall from grace (Gal 5:4), we are securely kept by Jesus Christ, the Author and Finisher of our faith, who has also sealed us and given us of His Spirit. So for someone who has known God's grace, to fall from it and go into Hagar will make us far more miserable for the time being than if we'd never known God's grace.

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You don't know what grace is?  You think grace is a free pass to live in sin.

Jesus said, it is finished. It's either finished, or it isn't. But I believe Him, and I rest in Him. And He said, the truth shall make you free. It would not be possible to use your liberty as a cloak of maliciousness (1 Peter 2:16) or as an occasion for the flesh (Gal 5:13) if those in Christ were not free of the condemnation of all sin. Nor does Paul's rhetorical question in Romans 6 make any sense if we were not free from the condemnation of all sin.

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So what your saying Jesus died so that you can continue to live in sin. You have been deceived! Grace is the power of God to live sin free according to his righteousness and will.   Jesus did not nail the Law to the cross he nailed your transgressions of the Law to the cross.  God's law is eternal.  Its still not ok to server other gods, blasphemy his name, commit murder, adultery, steal, lie, dishonor your parents or lust after evil things.  Jesus died to set you from sin, and not so that you can continue to live in sin.

Your words condemn you here, as man's righteousness is as filthy rags. And those who look to their works do worship the works of their own hands (Isaiah 2:8). Jesus said by your words shall you be justified, and by your words shall you be condemned (Matthew 12:37). To teach law is to condemn yourself by your own words. As Paul wrote of such in 1 Tim 1:7: "Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm."

Me, I proclaim Christ as my righteousness. I keep the Sabbath (or rest) of God, not carnally as a day of the week, but as a permanent, irrevocable reality of my being in Christ. Resting, that is - not working. Working breaks the Sabbath.

Edited October 20, 2020 by Don19

[Jedi4Yahweh]

57 minutes ago, Don19 said:

To teach law is to condemn yourself by your own words. As Paul wrote of such in 1 Tim 1:7: "Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm."

If that is true then Paul is contradicting the Messiah:

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. [Mat 5:19-20 KJV]