WHAT IS THE MYSTERY?

[douge]

1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Christ revealed the mystery to Paul, which is the body of Christ. The body of Christ was formed to reconcile the heavenly places (Colossians 1:20). This mystery was not made known to anyone before Paul, nor can it be found anywhere in the law and the prophets in scripture.

If those of the world had known this, they would not have crucified the Lord Jesus.

Peter and the disciples could not have known this mystery and therefore could not have preached the body of Christ, nor be members of it. They preached the gospel of the kingdom to Israel (the Davidic kingdom on earth...Matthew 4:23) and the name of Jesus (Acts 10:43).

[missmuffet]

The mystery of God’s will is that “which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ” (Ephesians 1:9–10; cf. 1 Corinthians 2:7; Revelation 2:7). The mystery of God is the consummation of God’s plan in bringing His kingdom in Christ to fulfillment. The kingdom had long been prophesied, but the how and the when and the by whom was not clear until the time of Christ. It is in Christ that God has been manifested to all of mankind. As Jesus said, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9).

[popsthebuilder]

The mystery is that Christ lives in the believer...in my opinion. It's also my opinion that all apostles at some point, became aware of the mystery.

[douge]

1 hour ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

The mystery is "Christ in you, the hope of glory" ( Col.1:27). That is a mystery,  since at times it doesn't necessarily " feel" that way. 

Yes that is indeed one of the mysteries revealed to Paul.

Our believing what God says is not based on our feelings...we are persuaded it is true..we reckon it to be true

[douge]

On 11/21/2020 at 3:08 PM, Walter Goraj jr said:

Yes. I believe that right before our Lord comes, all true believers will have confirmation in their spirit.

Not sure what that means....we have the witness by the word of God in regards to assurance of truth 1 John 5:10 Romans 8:16

[douge]

14 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Yes I believe that the Holy Spirit will give us "awareness" of Christ's coming so that day will not overtake us as a " thief "          (1 Thess.5:4). 

" And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh"              ( Luke 21: 28).

Israel will face the tribulation, the body of Christ will be taken up before this 1 Thessalonians 4:17

[douge]

18 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

There is no scripture that would even suggest multiple "comings " of the Lord.

First coming in the air:

1 Thessalonians 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Second coming on earth:

Zechariah  14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be  a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2020 by douge

[douge]

18 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Also, could you please provide scripture that specifically states that the nation of Israel will go through a period of tribulation while Christians are not here?

I do not know of one such verse.

The tribulation is the pouring out of wrath Revelation 6:17. We are not appointed to wrath 1 Thessalonians 5:9

[douge]

18 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

So what's the point of being a Christian? Are we not supposed to be much needed at that time? Spreading the gospel?

We are to be ambassadors for Christ and give the word of reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5:19-21

[Guest kingdombrat]

On 11/16/2020 at 11:53 AM, missmuffet said:

The mystery of God’s will is that “which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ” (Ephesians 1:9–10; cf. 1 Corinthians 2:7; Revelation 2:7). The mystery of God is the consummation of God’s plan in bringing His kingdom in Christ to fulfillment. The kingdom had long been prophesied, but the how and the when and the by whom was not clear until the time of Christ. It is in Christ that God has been manifested to all of mankind. As Jesus said, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9).

I agree with You!

The "Will" of God is indeed a mystery to us human beings.   We can believe we are in His Will while good things are taking place in our life and it can merely just be the "Blessings" of our Faith in God opening such treasures.

 

I know for myself, it took a very long portion of my life to understand how to submit to God's will.  Things just continued in a series of circles and I might get slightly ahead but eventually ended up nowhere.   I was listening to a Pastor (Tony Edwards) on my Christian Radio station discussing the "Lord's Prayer" and the meaning of being in God's Will via this prayer.   Something finally clicked.   I had been prophesied over to hold several positions in the Church I had attended but none of it came to pass (I was still in my own "will").   After listening to Dr. Tony Edwards, I finally said to God, "Not my will but Your Will be done."   I kept repeating this throughout the day because I wanted it to settle into my way of thinking.  I am still saying it many times throughout the day.

 

Anyways, one morning I was driving to work and I was saying to God, not my will Lord, but Your Will be done.   And I felt like I was making a real connection this time.   Like I knew I meant it for real and God heard me.   After lunch break, my supervisor came up to me and said, we have to let you go.   On my way home, I kept thinking if this was God's Will then something incredible must be going to happen.   The next day, a dear friend of mine was walking her dog and the dog just ran fast and yanked her over and she sprained her ankle so bad it was similar to a break.   God told me I had time to help her and minister to her.  Suddenly people who once went to my Dad for Spiritual advice was now calling me.   And I am currently in limbo waiting to see where God leads me next.

 

But the point is, had I not surrendered to God, those people who needed someone to talk to would not have had the chance because I would be on my job doing my own will.

 

I think the real "Mystery" of God and His Will is finally learning to understand how to get self out of the way.   And that is most difficult when things seem to be good and you think that is God and His Will for you.

 

I've seen on some Faith based forums where members have no idea of God's Will and they slam every idea, thought, suggestion that disagrees with their position.   I pray that is not here.

Edited November 27, 2020 by kingdombrat