THE LORD WILL REIGN ON EARTH WITH ISRAEL

[douge]

3 hours ago, Frits said:

Hi Douge,

Bro do you think that in the Millennial Kingdom, this city of Jerusalem will be made of houses of wood and stone?  Or is the heavenly Jerusalem made up of living 'mansions' that will come to earth from heaven with the Lord Jesus? (John 14:2)

In the kingdom on earth Christ will reign along with believing Israel over the Gentile nations that entered in.

[douge]

8 hours ago, Frits said:

What do you think it means: "For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel" (Rom.9:6b) 

To definitely identify true Israel. (Gal.4:28)

 

Romans 9:6-8 KJV - 6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

The Israel of God are those of faith. They are the called seed of the promise.

 

(Galatians 4:28 KJV) Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

The promise is found below....the promise that the heathen would be justified by faith.

(Galatians 3:7-8 KJV) 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.

(Galatians 3:14 KJV) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

 

Edited December 14, 2020 by douge

[Frits]

On 12/14/2020 at 3:32 PM, douge said:

The Israel of God are those of faith. They are the called seed of the promise.

Hi Douge,

I hope you realize that this faith can only mean faith in the Lord Jesus is God.
 As long as people in the Middle East don't do that, they don't belong to 'the Israel of God', even though their home is in the geographic state of Israel.

 God bless

[douge]

On 12/19/2020 at 9:29 AM, Frits said:

Hi Douge,

I hope you realize that this faith can only mean faith in the Lord Jesus is God.
 As long as people in the Middle East don't do that, they don't belong to 'the Israel of God', even though their home is in the geographic state of Israel.

 God bless

Yes Jesus is God, but the faith of Jesus involves his redemption for us....his shed blood, death and resurrection and imputed rightoeusness

[douge]

18 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

So what you are saying is that there will be division in the kingdom of heaven.  The saved Jew will be limited to a ( new?) Earth while the saved Gentile will be flying around in heaven?

For Israel:   Revelation 5:10 KJV - And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Isaiah 60:21 KJV - Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

For the church, the body of Christ:

Ephesians 2:6 KJV - And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

You can decide.

[douge]

4 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Decision made: In God's eternal kingdom, He does not place emphasis on  Jew or Gentile. Being all one in Christ Jesus,  we all inherit  " a new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness "( 2Peter 3:13).

The verses that you have shown me are interconnected.....they speak of the kingdom of God. 

 

 

In this dispensation (not in "God's eternal kingdom), in the body of Christ, there is no Jew or Gentile, but a new creature.

The body of Christ will be caught up before the tribulation and will be in heavenly places and will judge the angels:              1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

In the kingdom the believing Jews who came out of the tribulation will enter the kingdom on earth in which Christ will reign. The Gentile nations that are saved by how they treated Israel will also enter....the believing Gentiles will enter...the dead saints from before this dispensation will be resurrected and enter.

[Riverwalker]

7 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

You stated: " 1 Thessalonians 4:17 KJV - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord"

Bible basics: There was the first coming of Christ for "salvation ", and there most definitely will  be a second coming of Christ for judgment and to end this sin cursed earth. That's it with the comings. 

 

 

Just to interject here......If we meet Jesus in the air.....he technically hasn't returned to earth yet.  This allows for a rapture

[Riverwalker]

2 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

And you know all the specifics of how this amazingly spiritual event will take place? Did you know that the Greek new Testament in 1Thess 4:17 says.       "....to meet the Lord in air..."

 Mow if you're transforming into your new glorified spiritual body it's not necessarily being raptured away from the earth is it? 

It is because if rapture is separate from the second coming, then won't be taking our natural bodies to a spiritual place.  I do not recall in any scripture that says we will go up bodily, if I am wrong, I will stand corrected