steve morrow Posted December 21, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 367 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted December 21, 2020 SIMPLY ABSURD --- NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD AGAIN --- SAYS WHO SCHOLARSHIP OR DISCIPLESHIP THE CHOICE -- MAN OR JESUS CHRIST THE SAVIOUR AND MESSIAH 1 CORINTHIANS 5:6 YOUR GLORYING --IS NOT GOOD-- KNOW YOU NOT THAT A LITTLE LEAVEN LEAVENETH THE WHOLE LUMP --5:7-- PURGE OUT THEREFORE THE OLD LEAVEN THAT --YOU-- MAY BE A NEW LUMP AS YOU ARE UNLEAVENED FOR EVEN CHRIST OUR PASSOVER IS SACRIFICED FOR US 1 THESSALONIANS 4:7 FOR GOD HATH NOT CALLED US UNTO UNCLEANNESS BUT UNTO HOLINESS JOHN 5:29 AND SHALL COME FORTH THEY ---THAT HAVE DONE GOOD--- UNTO THE RESURRECTION OF LIFE AND THEY THAT HAVE DONE EVIL UNTO TO RESURRECTION OF DAMNATION **************************************************** JOHN 5:34 BUT I RECEIVE --NOT TESTIMONY FROM MAN-- BUT THESE THINGS --I SAY-- THAT YOU MIGHT BE SAVED **************************************************** EPHESIANS 4:22 THAT YOU PUT OFF CONCERNING THE FORMER CONVERSATION THE OLD MAN ---WHICH IS CORRUPT ACCORDING TO THE DECEITFUL LUSTS COLOSSIANS 3:9 LIE NOT TO ONE ANOTHER SEEING THAT YOU HAVE PUT OFF THE OLD MAN WITH HIS DEEDS ROMANS 10:3 FOR THEY BEING IGNORANT OF GODS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND GOING ABOUT TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS --- HAVE NOT SUBMITTED --- THEMSELVES UNTO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD **************************************************** ISAIAH 42:8 -- I AM THE LORD -- THAT IS MY NAME AND -- MY GLORY -- WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER NEITHER MY PRAISE TO GRAVEN IMAGES **************************************************** 1 CORINTHIANS 3:19 FOR THE WISDOM OF THIS WORLD IS FOOLISHNESS WITH GOD FOR IT IS WRITTEN HE TAKETH THE WISE IN THEIR OWN CRAFTINESS **************************************************** JUDE 1:16 THESE ARE MURMERERS COMPLAINERS ---WALKING AFTER THEIR LUSTS--- AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS HAVING MENS PERSONS IN ADMIRATION BECAUSE OF ADVANTAGE ***************************************************** ACTS 10:35 BUT IN EVERY NATION HE THAT FEARETH HIM ---AND WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS---IS ACCEPTED--- WITH HIM ***************************************************** LUKE 21:34 AND TAKE HEED TO YOURSELVES LEST --AT ANY TIME-- YOUR HEARTS BE OVERCHARGED WITH SURFEITING AND DRUNKENNESS ---AND CARES OF THIS LIFE--- AND SO THAT DAY COME UPON YOU UNAWARES --21:35-- FOR AS A SNARE SHALL IT COME ON ALL THEM THAT DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH *******21:36 WATCH YOU THEREFORE --AND PRAY ALWAYS-- THAT YOU MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, steve morrow said: SIMPLY ABSURD --- NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD AGAIN --- SAYS WHO SCHOLARSHIP OR DISCIPLESHIP THE CHOICE -- MAN OR JESUS CHRIST THE SAVIOUR AND MESSIAH 1 CORINTHIANS 5:6 YOUR GLORYING --IS NOT GOOD-- KNOW YOU NOT THAT A LITTLE LEAVEN LEAVENETH THE WHOLE LUMP --5:7-- PURGE OUT THEREFORE THE OLD LEAVEN THAT --YOU-- MAY BE A NEW LUMP AS YOU ARE UNLEAVENED FOR EVEN CHRIST OUR PASSOVER IS SACRIFICED FOR US 1 THESSALONIANS 4:7 FOR GOD HATH NOT CALLED US UNTO UNCLEANNESS BUT UNTO HOLINESS JOHN 5:29 AND SHALL COME FORTH THEY ---THAT HAVE DONE GOOD--- UNTO THE RESURRECTION OF LIFE AND THEY THAT HAVE DONE EVIL UNTO TO RESURRECTION OF DAMNATION **************************************************** JOHN 5:34 BUT I RECEIVE --NOT TESTIMONY FROM MAN-- BUT THESE THINGS --I SAY-- THAT YOU MIGHT BE SAVED **************************************************** EPHESIANS 4:22 THAT YOU PUT OFF CONCERNING THE FORMER CONVERSATION THE OLD MAN ---WHICH IS CORRUPT ACCORDING TO THE DECEITFUL LUSTS COLOSSIANS 3:9 LIE NOT TO ONE ANOTHER SEEING THAT YOU HAVE PUT OFF THE OLD MAN WITH HIS DEEDS ROMANS 10:3 FOR THEY BEING IGNORANT OF GODS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND GOING ABOUT TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS --- HAVE NOT SUBMITTED --- THEMSELVES UNTO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD **************************************************** ISAIAH 42:8 -- I AM THE LORD -- THAT IS MY NAME AND -- MY GLORY -- WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER NEITHER MY PRAISE TO GRAVEN IMAGES **************************************************** 1 CORINTHIANS 3:19 FOR THE WISDOM OF THIS WORLD IS FOOLISHNESS WITH GOD FOR IT IS WRITTEN HE TAKETH THE WISE IN THEIR OWN CRAFTINESS **************************************************** JUDE 1:16 THESE ARE MURMERERS COMPLAINERS ---WALKING AFTER THEIR LUSTS--- AND THEIR MOUTH SPEAKETH GREAT SWELLING WORDS HAVING MENS PERSONS IN ADMIRATION BECAUSE OF ADVANTAGE ***************************************************** ACTS 10:35 BUT IN EVERY NATION HE THAT FEARETH HIM ---AND WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS---IS ACCEPTED--- WITH HIM ***************************************************** LUKE 21:34 AND TAKE HEED TO YOURSELVES LEST --AT ANY TIME-- YOUR HEARTS BE OVERCHARGED WITH SURFEITING AND DRUNKENNESS ---AND CARES OF THIS LIFE--- AND SO THAT DAY COME UPON YOU UNAWARES --21:35-- FOR AS A SNARE SHALL IT COME ON ALL THEM THAT DWELL ON THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH *******21:36 WATCH YOU THEREFORE --AND PRAY ALWAYS-- THAT YOU MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS No disrespect intended, but.....I don’t think that I am the “only” one that by passes these types of giant Scripture Walls.....I already have a Bible.... I know what’s in it.... we are more interested in what you “ Think!”....... just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 I cant prove this , but I would bet everything that I own that the following is True.... Had something prevented Jesus from sprinkling His Holy Shed Blood on the Mercy Seat Of the Heavenly Ark of the Covenant.....Salvation for Anybody would have been an impossibility.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,251 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,858 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 3:09 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said: When it comes to Salvation, the Initiative belongs to God ....” NOBODY comes to God , lest the Spirit draw him” ) How did God draw me? (hint) "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, Not of works, lest any man should boast" Ephesians 2:8-9 OK, Through faith So then faith cometh by hearing, and (hearing by the ' WORD') of God. Romans 10:17 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. I heard the word. (My sheep HEAR my voice-Jesus is the word-He wrote the program) I then received faith. I then believed. I then received God's gift. Done. The life is in the Blood. Of the Lamb. Jesus. The Word.......... in the beginning was the WORD.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: SIMPLY ABSURD --- NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD AGAIN --- SAYS WHO “Be shepherds of God’s Church, the Church that Jesus bought with His own Blood”. Acts20:28 ” He reconciled to Himself all things , by making peace through His Shed Blood on the Cross” col1:20 “ We have Redemption....the Forgiveness ot Sins Through His Blood? “Eph1:7” The Grand- Daddy Of them All ———— “ Without the Shedding Of Blood...There is NO FORGIVENESS FOR SINS !” Heb 9:22 Want more? I can provide it, but you know how I feel about giant “ Scripture Walls.....boy, I could give you one....Perhaps I spoke too soon...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 “ The Blood Of Jesus Purifies us from ALL Sins” 1 John 1:7 ” He has freed us from our Sins , by His Blood.” Rev 1:* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted December 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 367 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted December 22, 2020 NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD --- SAYS WHO 1 JOHN 5:8 AND THERE ARE --THREE-- THAT BEAR WITNESS IN EARTH THE SPIRIT AND THE WATER AND THE BLOOD AND THESE THREE AGREE IN ONE JOHN 15:3 NOW YOU ARE CLEAN THROUGH --THE WORD-- WHICH I HAVE SPOKEN UNTO YOU 2 TIMOTHY 3:16 --ALL SCRIPTURE-- IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD AND IS PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE FOR REPROOF FOR CORRECTION FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS PROVERBS 11:4 RICHES PROFIT NOT IN THE DAY OF WRATH BUT RIGHTEOUSNESS DELIVERETH FROM DEATH ****************************************************** 2 CHRONICLES 18:15 AND THE KING SAID UNTO HIM HOW MANY TIMES SHALL I ADJURE THEE THAT THOU SAY NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH TO ME IN THE NAME OF THE LORD ****************************************************** PROVERBS 3:5 TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL THINE HEART AND LEAN NOT UNTO THINE OWN UNDERSTANDING 2 THESSALONIANS 2:13 BUT WE ARE BOUND TO GIVE THANKS ALWAYS TO GOD FOR YOU BRETHREN BELOVED OF THE LORD BECAUSE GOD HATH ---FROM THE BEGINNING--- CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION THROUGH SANCTIFICATION OF THE SPIRIT AND BELIEF OF THE TRUTH JAMES 1:18 OF HIS OWN WILL BEGAT HE US --- WITH THE WORD OF TRUTH --- THAT WE SHOULD BE A KIND OF FIRST FRUITS OF HIS CREATURES ****************************************************** YOU HAVE A BIBLE AND KNOW WHATS IN IT --- SO YOU WILLFULLY DISOBEY WHAT THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS COMMANDS OF US ****************************************************** DEUTERONOMY 4:2 YOU SHALL NOT ADD UNTO THE WORD WHICH I COMMAND YOU NEITHER SHALL YOU DIMINISH OUGHT FROM IT THAT YOU MAY KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD YOUR GOD WHICH I COMMAND YOU JEREMIAH 26:2 THUS SAITH THE LORD STAND IN THE COURT OF THE LORDS HOUSE AND SPEAK UNTO THE CITIES OF JUDAH WHICH COME TO WORSHIP IN THE LORDS HOUSE --ALL THE WORDS-- THAT I COMMAND THEE TO SPEAK UNTO THEM ---DIMINISH NOT A WORD REVELATION 22:19 AND IF --ANY MAN-- SHALL TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THIS PROPHECY GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY AND FROM THE THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desopixi Seilynam Posted December 27, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,002 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 304 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/12/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 11:54 PM, Hopefully said: That is how I am able to see myself growing spiritually by the changes he has made in me, but the original post which everyone so far has agreed with seems to state by being aware of sin and repenting from it is trying to be saved by works. Many of the things Paul said are hard to understand, and unlearned men will take and twist them. 2 Peter 3:15-16 The Galatians were not being led to follow the whole Torah, they were being led to believe that the sign of their salvation was circumcision, they were being led to believe that circumcision was the ticket into heaven. Paul specifically tells them "if you become circumcised, your obligated to do the whole law" Galatians 5:2-3 And "for they themselves keep not the law, they're just circumcised, they desire to have you circumcised that they may glory in your flesh" Galatians 6:12-13 From this context we see that Paul is not talking about any obedience at all as 'works' but rather Paul is speaking about the ritualistic bondage making aspects of the Torah. Things such as circumcision, eating only certain foods cooked in certain ways, having to wear only certain fabric, etc... literal rules that cause bondage to the rules themselves. Furthermore we know from the Lord that "he that practices sin is the slave of sin" "And if the Son shall make you free you shall be free indeed" from your (personal) sin. John 8:(24) 34-36 One abstaining from adultery becomes free, not a slave. One abstaining from drunkenness, becomes free, not a slave. Therefore to take Paul's words as if he means that any and all obedience is bondage, is to take his words in a very unlearned and twisted way. And we also have the book of Romans for more context. "for he that loves another has fulfilled the law, for this: thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not commit adultery... and if there be any other command it is summed up briefly in this statement; namely, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" Romans 13:8-10 "Do we make void the law through faith? Certainly not, we establish the law" Romans 3:31 "For all the law is fulfilled in one word even this; love your neighbor as yourself" Galatians 5:14 The love that Christ and Paul taught is the Spirit of the law (spirit in every sense of the word lowercase and Capital) This I say and testify in the Lord; Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. The words that Christ spoke they are spirit and they are life. [John 6:63] And Christ was born directly by the Spirit. [Luke 1:35] Christ therefore is the most direct orator of the Spirit. Following His teachings is walking in the Spirit, being led by the Spirit. "For the Lord is the Spirit" 2 Corinthians 3:17 "If any man preaches otherwise and consents not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine that is according to godliness, he is proud knowing nothing" 1 Timothy 6:3-14 "If any person does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be anathema, Oh Lord come!" 1 Corinthians 16:22 "He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me" John 14:21-24 "This is my command, that you love one another" John 15:12 Matthew 7:12 Luke 6:27-49 What happens to every sincere believer is that we put the simple teachings of Christ into practice, [Luke 6:27-49] The simplicity of Christ, (by the power of the Spirit) and then also our flesh based sins also divinely subside. What it means to walk in the Spirit is to follow Christ, to let Christ be our preacher and teacher, actually doing the simple things He says to do. His sheep hear His voice, know Him, and follow Him. John 10:27. For the Lord is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:17 And we are to be led by the Spirit. ------- The falling away that is happening, is a falling away from any obedience at all, lawlessness, a disregard of the laws of Christ [Matthew 5 through 7, Luke 6:27-49] [What Christ preached is the heart/spirit of the Torah, [Matt. 7:12, Rom. 13:8-9] if we disregard even the simple teachings of Christ, [Matt 11:28-30, 1 John 5:2-3] we therefore practice complete lawlessness, and that is the lawlessness referred to in Matthew 24] Indeed many preach on Galatians/Ephesians as if Paul is referring to any 'thought' as work. Which can not be the case because in Galatians Paul says "And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts" Galatians 5:24 explaining that the believer achieves victory over the fruit of the flesh as the fruit of the Spirit matures in the life of that sincere believer. [Which happens as we practice the simple teachings of Christ, being led by His Spirit, walking in His Spirit] And Paul directs us to be "holding every thought captive to the obedience of Christ" 2 Corinthians 10:5. [1 Corinthians 11:1] For example when a Christian man sees an attractive woman, he is to be sure to not think lustful thoughts, because that is what Christ commanded, and because that Christian man is empowered by the Spirit to exercise 'self-control' [Gal. 5:22-24] Another example, when we know in our mind that someone has something against us, we must try to make it right, clear our conscience, for that is what Christ commanded. All His teachings are mainly about our state of mind: Matthew 5 through 7. Therefore Paul calls it, "the renewing of your mind". These clear connections are not made by modern preachers, instead many lead people to believe that Christ and Paul were preaching different messages, but that is not the case. In one way or another, in many Churches, the specific teachings of Christ are either overlooked, or disregarded, such is the progress of the falling away. But the Messiah and the Father want you to actually heed His words: Deuteronomy 18:18-19, Matthew 7:21-28, 2 John 1:9-10, 1 Corinthians 16:22, John 14:21-24. "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Romans 8:14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted December 28, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 476 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,559 Content Per Day: 2.28 Reputation: 7,638 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 28, 2020 We are not under the law. So sin cannot condenm us. We are in christ. Its christ who righteous standing is ours. Can Jesus be condemn ? By his blood he took our place on the cross. We should have been on the cross and never resurrected. We earn that by our sinful works. He earn our salvation by his righteous works. Praise God who sent him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 28, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 5:13 AM, Blood Bought 1953 said: Sin is a bad thing.....sometimes a Terrible thing....duh. After a person Repents, that is, “ changes his mind” from “SELF TRUST” to “JESUS TRUST” he is Saved.So much for that. As we established earlier , sin is bad.....any sin hurts others, hurts ourselves and displeases God On Account Of that Hurt. However, too many “confused” Christians ....too many “poorly taught” Christians seem to live their lives Dwelling on the subject of Sin....something that God took care of for you, if you are a Believer in Jesus.If you are a Believer, God has Promised to Firgive you for all of your sins.....past ,present , and future.....He promised to take your sins and toss them into the “ deepest depths of the sea”.Your sins are as far removed from His sight as “ The East is from the West” And don’t tell anybody , but the Topper to all of this is that when the Accuser stands before you and God and tries to bring up all of your sins to God so that you can join him in Hell and get what you justly deserve , God is gonna say, “ What Sins? I don’t remember them!” Surprise! It’s just like Promised ! Saved “ To The Uttermost!” So, in light all of these great Promises, the concern for Sin certainly has its place , but I know that ever since I became “A New Creation in Christ Jesus” , RESTING in paul’s Gospel of Grace Plus Nothing , I have become MUCH more “ SON” conscience “ as opposed to “SIN” Conscience God’s Assurance Of Salvation for all Believers and His Amazing Grace , once fully recognized and internalized , so Out- Shadows everything else , I find myself delivered from the Baby World existence of sin ...repent.....sin ....repent, ad nauseam, keeping my eyes on Myself instead of keeping my eyes on Him..... A life devoted to Sin-Maitainence as opposed to Son Appreciation shows a lack of confidence in the Plan Of God for His Children , simply put, it shows a lack of Faith . It’s a Paradox, but nevertheless it is True......the More I keep my eyes on Him and HIS Performance, not being so Obsessed with “ my” pitiful Performance —- the Better my Performance becomes .Christianity is kinda “ crazy “ like that.....Full Of Paradoxes—— you go up by going down......you become first by being last....I am finding that the less I worry about sin the better job I do Of not Sinning .....hmmmm... I wonder if God knew that long before I did......God bless... Whose faith did Jesus declare greater? The keepers of the Law? Or the prostitute that wept on his feet and dried them with her hair? The self righteous Pharisee who prayed or the sinner who would not as much as lift his eyes to heaven and prayed "forgive me a sinner?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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