Paul an Apostle?

[warrior12]

1 hour ago, Josheb said:

So... if I understand the conversation so far, you're going to make vague derisive comments about individuals that won't be named and without a single bit of evidence provided even when asked and we're supposed to rely on the report that you've read some such statements. 

Three more questions for you: 

1) Would you mind reading these three ops HERE and HERE, and let me know your thoughts about the relative value or worthlessness of educated Christians with titles relevant to the premise there are "Those who don't read their bibles, but listen to others who may have degrees or higher education, then seem to lean on their interpretation and spread false narrative of Paul" who are purportedly "usually by heretics, who have long titles"? 

2) When readers read the sentences, "Those who don't read their bibles, but listen to others who may have degrees or higher education, then seem to lean on their interpretation and spread false narrative of Paul" who are purportedly "usually by heretics, who have long titles" can you understand how or why readers would want to know specifically what and who you're writing about? 

3) Are you aware the apostle Paul was a highly-educated and titled individual? 

 

thx

Brother, if you want to get into disagreements with the admin here, then you can, I am not taking your bait.  Sure, I did not provide any names as this would cause problems. 

I once created a thread asking who are your favorite pastors or teachers you like to listen. Names were mentioned and in the end the admin closed the thread.  I learned my lesson.

Anyway, have you ever heard of " Pauline Christianity " ?.   As I said, you have to do a bit of research on your own, but I will cut and paste a little clip of gotquestions on the topic and you can take it from there. You can read the rest of the topic on the link below.

 https://www.gotquestions.org/Pauline-Christianity.html

Question: "What is Pauline Christianity?"

Answer: Pauline Christianity is a term applied to what some perceive as the religious teaching unique to Paul’s writings and distinct from the gospel of Jesus. That is, Jesus taught one thing, and Paul taught something completely different. Those who believe in a separate Pauline Christianity believe that the Christianity of today has little to do with Jesus’ teachings; rather, it is the product of Paul’s corruption of those teachings.

Edited January 1, 2021 by warrior12

[warrior12]

1 hour ago, Starise said:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I interpreted this as simply people who trust biblical scholars too much instead of doing self study. 

 You got the point. Many people looking for answers, would tend to lean on the learned and those who have studied. This is how the modern world has basically trended.  If you would take a sample and ask who one would trust or hold esteem in biblical interpretations, who would be trusted more, not the guys that has be in seminary and trained . Plus there are outside critics that scrutinize that brings biblical passages and subjects into question with cleverness.   

when you have a guy who have studied greek, Hebrew and other languages and can read and interpret manuscript, who has the advantage and would seem more plausible in his assertions.  It's just the way MOST credentials are accepted.

[Frits]

35 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

There are search engine sites if you're wanting to know what others find as contradictions.   I think some of the contradictions appeared when updated translations took place.   Possibly from the original Paul's writings to a copy of other copies.   But there is no doubt the Word of God is in perfect Harmony!

kingdombrad,

Indeed, the word of God is in perfect harmony. Hence, probably, I couldn't find any contradiction between the preaching of the Lord Jesus and Paul.
So I don't really understand why this is mentioned.

God bless you.

[warrior12]

Just now, Frits said:

kingdombrad,

Indeed, the word of God is in perfect harmony. Hence, probably, I couldn't find any contradiction between the preaching of the Lord Jesus and Paul.
So I don't really understand why this is mentioned.

God bless you.

Oh, but there is one that many seem to beat to death and which stumps even the most staunch believer.   That is the one of which is the greatest commandment.  Paul said one thing, while Jesus said another.  Don't recall the scripture verse, but there are folks here that knows it well,maybe they can shed some light.  Thanks. 

[Frits]

11 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Oh, but there is one that many seem to beat to death and which stumps even the most staunch believer.   That is the one of which is the greatest commandment.  Paul said one thing, while Jesus said another.  Don't recall the scripture verse, but there are folks here that knows it well,maybe they can shed some light.  Thanks. 

You make me a little curious Warrior, because I haven't got the slightest idea what you mean. Maybe someone else can tip me off which Bible passage you have in mind.
 Thanks!

[warrior12]

5 minutes ago, Josheb said:

And remember: I am going to accept an honest "I don't know." I'd rather have that than "You're a schmuck, Josh." 

Demanding, are you !!.   Well let the gotquestion link I gave you, lead you to your own search.  Done here.

[warrior12]

11 minutes ago, Frits said:

You make me a little curious Warrior, because I haven't got the slightest idea what you mean. Maybe someone else can tip me off which Bible passage you have in mind.
 Thanks!

see

Matthew    22:37-40

Romans  13:9-10

[Frits]

3 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

see

Matthew    22:37-40

Romans  13:9-10

Thanks, I will read them.

God bless you.

[warrior12]

15 minutes ago, Frits said:

You make me a little curious Warrior, because I haven't got the slightest idea what you mean. Maybe someone else can tip me off which Bible passage you have in mind.
 Thanks!

I posted the relative scripture verses. Let me say, that I don't see it as a contradiction, as the whole chapter has to be read and taken into the overall context.  But to a critic, yes, they would point this out as a stumble by Paul.

[Frits]

1 minute ago, warrior12 said:

I posted the relative scripture verses. Let me say, that I don't see it as a contradiction, as the whole chapter has to be read and taken into the overall context.  But to a critic, yes, they would point this out as a stumble by Paul.

Thank you for your additional explanation.