Riverwalker Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 Oh I am one conflicted Christian When I hear of Facebook , Twitter, Amazon (shutting down Parler's hosting) , apple and verizon shutting down the opinions of Americans whose voice doesn't echo the populist view, which is just the latest of a long line of liberal abuses with many more to follow I harken back to the founding Fathers. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." And yet as much As I want to go kick down doors, and fight back against these grave abuses of our freedoms and our rights, the Christian part of me is telling me, do not waste your efforts fighting against the doomed governance of men, which in the end always fails, but rather look to the Spiritual well being of those around you. I know this is correct, and yet do we give up the greatness what was America to these hooligans who break any law, destroy any life, tell any lie and violate the trust of those gullible people who believed them. There are many times in our lives when we are called to give up something that is in opposition to the will of God, it just pains me that America...my America, might be one of those things 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdtwice Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 62 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: And yet as much As I want to go kick down doors, and fight back against these grave abuses of our freedoms and our rights, the Christian part of me is telling me, do not waste your efforts fighting against the doomed governance of men, which in the end always fails, but rather look to the Spiritual well being of those around you. I know this is correct, and yet do we give up the greatness what was America to these hooligans who break any law, destroy any life, tell any lie and violate the trust of those gullible people who believed them. I too am conflicted about this. Your paragraph above brings it to a fine point and it has been weighing on my mind as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.94 Reputation: 7,798 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 I wonder if the Patriotic giant (now asleep) is stirring. He will be fierce-some if awakened rudely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,305 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,335 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Riverwalker said: Oh I am one conflicted Christian When I hear of Facebook , Twitter, Amazon (shutting down Parler's hosting) , apple and verizon shutting down the opinions of Americans whose voice doesn't echo the populist view, which is just the latest of a long line of liberal abuses with many more to follow I harken back to the founding Fathers. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." And yet as much As I want to go kick down doors, and fight back against these grave abuses of our freedoms and our rights, the Christian part of me is telling me, do not waste your efforts fighting against the doomed governance of men, which in the end always fails, but rather look to the Spiritual well being of those around you. I know this is correct, and yet do we give up the greatness what was America to these hooligans who break any law, destroy any life, tell any lie and violate the trust of those gullible people who believed them. There are many times in our lives when we are called to give up something that is in opposition to the will of God, it just pains me that America...my America, might be one of those things You already have the answer to your dilemma, my friend. It's stated in your OP. So long as you continue to embrace the world and the polarizing snare of politicizing everything you come across you will remain conflicted, facing what you know is right and true but burdened with the cares of this flesh. Surrender it all. Turn away and keep your eyes, mind, and heart focused on Jesus Christ. Serve the Lord, work for His kingdom which is not of this world, and look after the needs of your neighbor. Visit the incarcerated and the sick; be a father to the fatherless and care for widows; give to those in need withholding nothing good from any who ask. Be a peacemaker, not a door-kicker. Give to others as the Son of God has given to you. Pick up your cross and follow the Lamb. You know this is the answer to your dilemma. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlade Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,234 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Yeah so many of us I personally believe feel the same way. This is not some 3rd world nation. This nation was made founded based on had a covenant with God before it was a nation. So our Father haha.. sorry the song playing "this is your time your moment! "the comeback by Danny Gokey" perfect timing. Not a nation based on the world under the worlds authority. Our Father has the right to act if when the enemy tries to kill steal and destroy. For me this battle is not with man. And we have all authority over the enemy in JESUS name. You called me out from the grave! Word Of Life Jeremy Camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 14 hours ago, Riverwalker said: Oh I am one conflicted Christian When I hear of Facebook , Twitter, Amazon (shutting down Parler's hosting) , apple and verizon shutting down the opinions of Americans whose voice doesn't echo the populist view, which is just the latest of a long line of liberal abuses with many more to follow I harken back to the founding Fathers. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." And yet as much As I want to go kick down doors, and fight back against these grave abuses of our freedoms and our rights, the Christian part of me is telling me, do not waste your efforts fighting against the doomed governance of men, which in the end always fails, but rather look to the Spiritual well being of those around you. I know this is correct, and yet do we give up the greatness what was America to these hooligans who break any law, destroy any life, tell any lie and violate the trust of those gullible people who believed them. There are many times in our lives when we are called to give up something that is in opposition to the will of God, it just pains me that America...my America, might be one of those things You pray. God will take care of this evil world in His timing. He will bring judgment and wrath upon this earth. It will not be pretty. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,448 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,529 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2021 Remember the baker who refused to bake the cake and what the result was, this is the world we have entered into and which will progressively get worse I believe. You see, Christians are now seen as abusers and evil, rather than peace makers and charitable people. The morals of the world are now being redrawn ed to fit the narrative of the new gender definitions ect. This is the world that those on the left wants instituted and it is very different from the believer. The OP questions and worries has come to the forefront of every believer I suppose, so while I think many are still trying to sort out what response would be on the table, the teachings of the word are there to guide and support you. How you embrace it and at the same time see your country delve into a big divide is a struggle that has to be met with prayer, discussion with others and ultimately, your conclusion of what is our life about here,and how we are to live it. It's every man call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sorrell Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/08/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/11/1945 Share Posted January 10, 2021 To Riverwalker I saw how the world, even his own party, left President Donald Trump to take the blunt of the invasion of the Capitol Building. The barriers were flimsy. The doors were left open. People commented that people in black clothing were directing activities. They were not Trump supporters. The invasion was a setup. People like Nancy Pelosi have shown how she reacts when she was caught on camera without a mask and said the hairstylist "framed her." She would not work with the President but wanted him impeached when he first came to power. I am concerned how quickly the United States has slid into a socialist government. I have talked to Father God about this and was left the impression, He wants America to look at the results she has made by looking at personalities instead of qualifications. Does the church find this alarming what is happening to this country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,377 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,555 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Right now God, while His people are here, restrains the evil that is ruling here... we need not fight till His kingdom is set up here in the millennium: John 18:36 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdombrat Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It definitely feels right now, in this moment of time, between Biden taking over and being in God's Plan like the "Calm [before] the Storm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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