Diaste Posted January 25, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,634 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,369 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 25, 2021 Recent news about Israel and the Temple shows the push to begin construction gaining steam even with Arab nations. I read the construction could be completed in 12 months. For some time now all the instruments, furniture, vessels and other trappings for the required rituals have been on hand. Even now the red heifer is being bred in Israel. Rumor is there is an existing secret agreement with the Palestinians for peace. Not sure if that would be a requirement or not, but it is interesting. Times are changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted January 25, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,270 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 25, 2021 Apparently..... a temple is not needed. Israel is preparing to sacrifice a Passover lamb on the Temple Mount this year in an effort to stop the pandemic. The president of the Sanhedrin recently pointed out that the original Passover sacrifice stopped the spread of the tenth plague in ancient Egypt. What's interesting is that Muslims know the Exodus account and they know that it stopped the plague for the faithful at that time. They also believe Moses was a prophet. The sacrifices CAN take place without a third temple and without a red heifer sacrifice......it has nothing to do with biblical requirements. It only has to do with the Jewish authority's idea of what is right and correct. If they think the sacrifice could take place that way....then it can! What cannot be compromised, according to Jewish authorities, is they believe they must use the original location of the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite. And what's really interesting is that surveyors were on the Temple Mount just last week. These were police surveyors. Government sanctioned. It wasn't Muslim surveyors. Really exciting times. We'll have to keep our attention on this new development. Passover is just 2 months away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted January 25, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 25, 2021 The biggest problem is going to be the anger of God. He gets rejected to be the King, in place of a man. He comes AS A MAN and is rejected AGAIN He is crucified, raised, and walks again amongst them AND STILL they won't believe. AND now they are going to sacrifice a lamb? I'd go to war in heaven just to SEND a message to earth on account of that alone. HE SENDS the pestilence upon the earth. Have they not read? No, guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,270 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Da Puppers said: I think that the right place and time will be what is confirmed by God himself. I don't believe that God will have anything to do with this. This is all the Jews doing. Sacrificing a lamb on Passover for the purpose of ending the "pandemic" has support, obviously from the Sanhedrin, and now from more and more Muslims. And with Saudi Arabia now having representation on the mount, this seems like the right time. We know that the sacrifices are taken away around the mid-point of the 70th week. For them to be taken away, they have to start. Perhaps this is the start. 4 hours ago, Da Puppers said: If this upcoming Passover lamb is not done in the proper place, would that make it illegitimate? I think you would probably answer yes, but you might add, "how will they know where the right place is? That is the reason they are surveying on the Temple Mount.....to locate the right spot. Edited January 26, 2021 by JoeCanada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 774 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,949 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,984 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Diaste said: Recent news about Israel and the Temple shows the push to begin construction gaining steam even with Arab nations. I read the construction could be completed in 12 months. For some time now all the instruments, furniture, vessels and other trappings for the required rituals have been on hand. Even now the red heifer is being bred in Israel. Rumor is there is an existing secret agreement with the Palestinians for peace. Not sure if that would be a requirement or not, but it is interesting. Times are changing. Imho it shall b built after Gog n Magog battle where they shall be defeated massively n they will let the building of the temple but Jerusalem old city is internationalized first n antichrist will make that 7 years of peace deal between Israel-Arabs. This is after the rapture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,634 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,369 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Josheb said: So what? That could be said in any moment of any time in any day in any week in any month in any year in any decade or century. The author of Hebrews makes it very clear God's people are not to look further t or turn back to the old Jewish system; it has been annulled and superseded by Christ who is the fulfillment of the law, the psalms and the prophets, the true Holy of Holies, the true temple of God. In spite of these truths some look forward to temporal, earthly fulfillments in misguided hopes they will bring about Christ's return. These temporal fulfillments are arrived at only through eisegetic inference and never exegetical inference. So I ask you "So what if Jews build another temple and start sacrificing red heifers? God will find no merit in it. It is a repudiation of His Son. Do you not also see that any requirement another temple be built (work), any reinstitution of the Law of Moses (works), and any inadequate sacrifices (work) is only a works-based doctrine that corrupts Christin truth. It is a works-first-plus-grace salvation for faith, not a grace-based salvation through faith for works. This eschatology corrupts orthodox soteriology. Yeah, yeah...an old tired argument that states one thing must necessarily preclude the other. An argument that creates the false equivalency of a Temple in Jerusalem and the true temple of God. This set of arguments also says if a temple is built it somehow replaces the true temple and that it's an impossibility for such a stone temple to exist as it doesn't reflect the truth of the real temple. Like that stops anyone. Better burn down the churches and destroy the altars in Christian communities all around the world cause they ain't the church either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,634 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,369 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 16 hours ago, JoeCanada said: Apparently..... a temple is not needed. Israel is preparing to sacrifice a Passover lamb on the Temple Mount this year in an effort to stop the pandemic. The president of the Sanhedrin recently pointed out that the original Passover sacrifice stopped the spread of the tenth plague in ancient Egypt. What's interesting is that Muslims know the Exodus account and they know that it stopped the plague for the faithful at that time. They also believe Moses was a prophet. The sacrifices CAN take place without a third temple and without a red heifer sacrifice......it has nothing to do with biblical requirements. It only has to do with the Jewish authority's idea of what is right and correct. If they think the sacrifice could take place that way....then it can! What cannot be compromised, according to Jewish authorities, is they believe they must use the original location of the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite. And what's really interesting is that surveyors were on the Temple Mount just last week. These were police surveyors. Government sanctioned. It wasn't Muslim surveyors. Really exciting times. We'll have to keep our attention on this new development. Passover is just 2 months away! This is true and I think the Jews have held practices. But in order to fulfill 2 Thess 2 a Temple must stand as if one 'sitteth in the temple' there must a temple in which to sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don19 Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 578 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 253 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2021 Prophetic or eschatological significance does not imply the approval of God. These are not the same thing. No doubt, if a "third temple" is erected and sacrifices brought, it would be a very wicked thing, an abomination, as God has provided the sacrifice in Jesus Christ. Nevertheless, it's hard not to see such a thing as significant in some way. It's not a totally random thing. It requires God's providence that such a thing may be brought about. And what for? I don't know. There are many errorists out there when it comes to the end times. Just because they have it wrong doesn't mean that a "third temple" is not significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCanada Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 77 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,270 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Josheb said: The fact remains there isn't a single scripture stating another temple will be built, there isn't a single prophesy stating any such event will happen Well, that's not entirely true. The prophet Zechariah says that the Messiah, whom he calls "the Branch" will yet build a temple in Israel. ""Take from them silver and gold, and make a crown, and set it upon the head of Joshua, the son of Jehozadak, the high priest, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord of hosts, "Behold, the man whose name is the Branch: for he shall grow up in his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord. It is he who shall build the temple of the Lord, and shall bear royal honor, and shall sit and rule upon his throne. And there shall be a priest by his throne, and peaceful understanding shall be between them both."' (Zechariah 6:13.) This may well be the same temple that Ezekiel saw in a vision, and no temple that matches his description has yet been built: "When you allot the land as a possession, you shall set apart for the Lord a portion of the land as a holy district, twenty-five thousand cubits long and twenty thousand cubits broad; it shall be holy throughout its whole extent. Of this a square plot of five hundred by five hundred cubits shall be for the sanctuary, with fifty cubits for an open space around it. And in the holy district you shall measure off a section twenty-five thousand cubits long and ten thousand broad, in which shall be the sanctuary, the most holy place. It shall be the holy portion of the land; it shall be for the priests, who minister in the sanctuary and approach the Lord to minister to him; and it shall be a place for their houses and a holy place for the sanctuary. Another section, twenty-five thousand cubits long and ten thousand cubits broad, shall be for the Levites who minister at the temple, as their possession for cities to live in." "Alongside the portion set apart as the holy district you shall assign for the possession of the city an area five thousand cubits broad, and twenty-five thousand cubits long it shall belong to the whole house of Israel." "And to the prince shall belong the land on both sides of the holy district and the property of the city, on the west and on the east, corresponding in length to one of the tribal portions, and extending from the western to the eastern boundary of the land. It is to be his property in Israel. And my princes shall no more oppress my people; but they shall let the house of Israel have the land according to their tribes." (Ezekiel 45:1-8.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted January 26, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.62 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 26, 2021 22 hours ago, JoeCanada said: This is all the Jews doing. Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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