Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[JohnR7]

On 4/22/2021 at 4:40 PM, Sparks said:

I am not following.  Sorry. 

My question is can you explain the meaning of Proverbs 4:18: "But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day". What is the "perfect day"? I notice a reference to "light" and on the first day God said: "Let there be light". 

[JohnR7]

On 4/22/2021 at 4:38 PM, Sparks said:

I guess you need only produce evidence for Pangea and a flood prior to Noah's flood, then.  As I have suggested to others, a time machine would work best. 

Without a time machine, you won't be able to back your claims.

You can not speak for me, you can only speak for yourself. John 21:25 tells us: "And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen".

I make the exact same claim as John: Every book in the world would not be enough to contain all the evidence there is that I could give you. But you have already admitted that you are aware of none of it. 

As far as your "time machine" claim. There is no time with God. He does not change and He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. In fact if I need healing for an event that took place in my past God goes back and heal from the beginning of when the event took place. That then has an effect on my life today. He does not just heal memories. Man in the name of science tries to heal memories and is not effective at all. 

Religion and Science can be used and abused. But there is a true Religion and there is a true Science. People can use false religion to falsity false science and so on. Just like skeptics and scoffers can use a reprobate mind to try to present a case for their atheism. 

Edited April 26, 2021 by JohnR7

[JohnR7]

10 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

Hominids by whose classification though?

Now that Frances Collins has disqualified himself there is no longer a christian expert to give us a theory on theistic evolution. Which is not that much of a loss because he was pretty sloppy with his theory. 

[Justin Adams]

10 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

How about posting those

Not my post bro...

[The Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Not my post bro...

Sorry.  S'okay, though.    I didn't expect anyone to actually support it.

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

18 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

God doesn't classify hominids.   It's like complaining because the periodic table doesn't use God's classivication for transition metals.

 

My point exactly, human's are the ones thinking they [need] to classify.   And many things, we need them to be classified.

[The Barbarian]

7 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

My point exactly, human's are the ones thinking they [need] to classify. 

Especially things that naturally fall into a nested hierarchy of things.   Like organisms.   Turns out,the classification demonstrated evolution before humans figured it out.     Linnaeus thought it was just God's system, until he realized that other things, like minerals, could not be so fitted.

And he began to suspect that there was a reason for this order that had not yet been discovered.    As there was.

 

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

3 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

Especially things that naturally fall into a nested hierarchy of things.   Like organisms.   Turns out,the classification demonstrated evolution before humans figured it out.     Linnaeus thought it was just God's system, until he realized that other things, like minerals, could not be so fitted.

And he began to suspect that there was a reason for this order that had not yet been discovered.    As there was.

You are aware that [animals] do not possess a soul?

To classify man as the relative/offspring/result of Evolution to something without a [soul] seems like the system has failed.

Edited April 26, 2021 by kingdombrat

[The Barbarian]

12 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

You are aware that [animals] do not possess a soul?

They don't have a living soul, so far as we know.   God doesn't say one way or the other.   We do know that God directly gives man a living soul, rather than by using nature, as He does for our bodies.   Our bodies are created naturally, and our souls are given supernaturally.  

Presumably, because nature does not produce a living soul.

12 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

To classify man as the relative/offspring/result of Evolution to something without a [soul] seems like the system has failed.

That's based on a misconception.   Our nature is twofold.   Our bodies are produced like those of any other animal,because we are animals.   But as you know, that's not all we are.   We are also, each of us, a living soul.

Doesn't seem that difficult to understand.

[teddyv]

15 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

You are aware that [animals] do not possess a soul?

To classify man as the relative/offspring/result of Evolution to something without a [soul] seems like the system has failed.

I understand the the Hebrew uses 'nephesh', which is generally translated as 'soul' or 'life', and is applied to both humans and animals, but not plants.