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Mat 12:40 KJV For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

But if we then look at the suffering and death of the Lord Jesus, we see that He died on the (Friday) evening before Shabbat.
Then the night comes to Saturday, and then the night from Saturday to Sunday.
These are 2 nights and not 3.

Where is the third night?

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32 minutes ago, Frits said:

Where is the third night?

Popular myth is the 'easter' rewrite of the true Passover.

Nisan 14-thru-17. Yeshua arose on the Sabbath at eve time just before day's end.

 

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1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

Popular myth is the 'easter' rewrite of the true Passover.

Nisan 14-thru-17. Yeshua arose on the Sabbath at eve time just before day's end.

 

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Hi bro Justin,

I was not familiar with "The Great Easter Fraud", but nice to see the little diagram with which they try to substantiate this speculation.

According to this Jewish diagram, the Lord Jesus would already be in the tomb on Friday, so before the crucifixion!
After all, it says in Jh.19:31 that the Lord Jesus hung on the cross the day before the Sabbath, so on Friday afternoon.
So this diagram must be incorrect, don't you agree?

 

Joh 19:31 KJV The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

God bless.

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Wed crucified about 3pm and in the tomb just before day's end. Thursday in the tomb. Friday in the tomb. Saturday evening as the day was coming to an end, HE AROSE.

Study history a little more. Two sabbaths that week. It was Passover and the Feast of Unleavened bread. It was not the weekly Sabbath talked about in John. It was one of the yearly High Days. (Thursday). It was on the weekly Sabbath that He arose.

John 19:31 King James Version (KJV) 31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. King James Version (KJV)

It is not speculation at all. It was later 'church' doctrine that instituted 'easter' and made law by the RCC. Literally millions of Christians see this fake easter myth as just another misdirect by the 'established' church. It is not 'easter' either - it is Passover. The Passion and Passover of our Lord.

You do not have to do much research to find out these facts.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTMagn5bz8M  (Chuck Missler)

If the link is not working, search for Chuck Missler on YouTube: "The Crucifiction of Jesus Christ was on Wednesday 1 of 2"

Wednesday Crucifiction.doc

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41 minutes ago, Frits said:

Hi bro Justin,

I was not familiar with "The Great Easter Fraud", but nice to see the little diagram with which they try to substantiate this speculation.

According to this Jewish diagram, the Lord Jesus would already be in the tomb on Friday, so before the crucifixion!
After all, it says in Jh.19:31 that the Lord Jesus hung on the cross the day before the Sabbath, so on Friday afternoon.
So this diagram must be incorrect, don't you agree?

 

Joh 19:31 KJV The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

God bless.

From John 19:31 the description of the events at hand by a credible eye witness John the disciple of Jesus Christ in the time when his description of events could be refuted by the other witness of the same events, even the other disciples and everyone else, even the Pharisees and the Jews, which according to the narrative the Jews are they one who besought Pilate to do something as to speed up the death of those hung on the Cross, which resulted in the Roman soldier pearching the side of Jesus Christ to verified that he was dead, because he looked that he had died. But for the other two who were still alive, the soldiers broke their legs to speed up their death, and their taken down from the Cross before the beginning of the Sabbath day.

Which according to the scripture above and to the witness the Jews representing their leaders it was both a Sabbath day and a High Holiday falling on the Sabbath Day.

(For that Sabbath day was a High Day) -a plain reading, the High Day fall on the Sabbath Day.-

Note: thanks to Pilate who order that Jesus be flocked, which contributed to the quick death of Jesus Christ so his legs were not broken. 

Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday night.

Jesus arose from the place of the dead early Sunday morning. 

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2 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus arose from the place of the dead early Sunday morning. 

Wednesday Crucifixion.  Our Lack of knowledge.

In 363 AD, the Catholic Church decreed many things, here are three that are very important to the subject:

Site: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3806.htm
 

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Canon 29

Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.

Canon 37

It is not lawful to receive portions sent from the feasts of Jews or heretics, nor to feast together with them.

Canon 38

It is not lawful to receive unleavened bread from the Jews, nor to be partakers of their impiety.

 

From 363 AD to the 1517 AD, tradition was fully locked in on this subject and why dictionaries and most translations all read like the canons of the Council of Laodicea. Very antisemitic!

They separated the "church" from the "Jews" and did away with the linking of Jesus as a Jew. They changed the meaning of the word Sabbath (which even in Greek today, means Saturday) into "[day] of the week" thereby making Jesus a Sunday person instead of the Sabbath person which He Himself declared. At least the KJV admits they had to add [day] to the phrase because it does not appear in the Greek.

Matthew 12:8
For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Deuteronomy 5:12
“Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as Yahweh your God commanded you".

Genesis 2:2
On the seventh day God finished his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Also the Pharisees changed the day in which they keep the Passover instead of the 14th of Nisan to the 15th of Nisan which is why John said, over and over "the Jew's Passover" (John 2:13, 11:55) which they celebrated (even today) on the 15th of Nisan contrary to the word of God. I asked an Israeli Jewish friend why and he didn't have an answer.

Leviticus 23:5
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month in the evening, is Yahweh’s Passover.

Then you have the changing of the calendar from Roman, to Julian, to Gregorian, and the year of the Jewish calendar after Jesus died to obfuscate Him as the Messiah. Now you have multiple sources for confusion concerning the day of the Lord's death and resurrection. I am not surprised by this at all. It was the single greatest blow to the devil the Father could do to him, so the devil created what he does best, confusion.

If you use the unbiased original versions (Greek and Hebrew) it's undeniable and irrefutable that Jesus died on Wednesday, 483 years 13 days after Daniel's prophecy, Daniel 9:25-26, just like the first Passover. And on the Hebrew calendar, the list of Wednesday that fall on 14 Nisan are:

                    9 April 27 (Julian)

                    5 April 30 (Julian)

                    20 March 37 (Julian)

With Daniel's prophecy to contend with, it could only have happened on 9 April 27 when Jesus died at the age of 32 and 5 month 28 days.

Of the 62 times σάββατον "Sabbaton" is translated, 8 times it's "[day] of the week" and  54 times as Sabbath. Every one of the 6 times, it is concerning Jesus' resurrection and once about fasting "twice a [week]" and bringing in the tithes on the "first [day] of the week". In Greek the word for "week" is εβδομάδα (evdomáda) and the word does NOT appear in the word of God.

Here is the proper translation of Matt 28.

Matthew 28:1
And on the eve of the Sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the Sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulcher (first means counting 49 Sabbath to pentecost)

Leviticus 23:15-17
You shall count from the next day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be completed: even to the next day after the seventh Sabbath you shall number fifty days; and you shall offer a new meal offering to Yahweh. You shall bring out of your habitations two loaves of bread for a wave offering made of two tenth parts of an ephah of fine flour. They shall be baked with yeast, for first fruits to Yahweh.

As with the truth, most dogma wins out and the truth is rejected. While some will say "what difference does it make" I say that the every jot and tittle means something and means what it says. Throw away your vain philosophies and doctrines of devils and return to the truth of the word of God. You cannot get it from any translation. With the advent of the internet, you have no excuse not to understand Greek and Hebrew with proper tools. Thanks to a lot of great dictionaries, you can through the Holy Spirit discern the truth. Study to show YOURSELF...

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew yourself approved unto God, a workman that need not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 


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3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Wednesday Crucifixion.  Our Lack of knowledge.

In 363 AD, the Catholic Church decreed many things, here are three that are very important to the subject:

Site: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3806.htm
 

  Quote

Canon 29

Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.

Canon 37

It is not lawful to receive portions sent from the feasts of Jews or heretics, nor to feast together with them.

Canon 38

It is not lawful to receive unleavened bread from the Jews, nor to be partakers of their impiety.

 

From 363 AD to the 1517 AD, tradition was fully locked in on this subject and why dictionaries and most translations all read like the canons of the Council of Laodicea. Very antisemitic!

They separated the "church" from the "Jews" and did away with the linking of Jesus as a Jew. They changed the meaning of the word Sabbath (which even in Greek today, means Saturday) into "[day] of the week" thereby making Jesus a Sunday person instead of the Sabbath person which He Himself declared. At least the KJV admits they had to add [day] to the phrase because it does not appear in the Greek.

Matthew 12:8
For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Deuteronomy 5:12
“Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as Yahweh your God commanded you".

Genesis 2:2
On the seventh day God finished his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Also the Pharisees changed the day in which they keep the Passover instead of the 14th of Nisan to the 15th of Nisan which is why John said, over and over "the Jew's Passover" (John 2:13, 11:55) which they celebrated (even today) on the 15th of Nisan contrary to the word of God. I asked an Israeli Jewish friend why and he didn't have an answer.

Leviticus 23:5
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month in the evening, is Yahweh’s Passover.

Then you have the changing of the calendar from Roman, to Julian, to Gregorian, and the year of the Jewish calendar after Jesus died to obfuscate Him as the Messiah. Now you have multiple sources for confusion concerning the day of the Lord's death and resurrection. I am not surprised by this at all. It was the single greatest blow to the devil the Father could do to him, so the devil created what he does best, confusion.

If you use the unbiased original versions (Greek and Hebrew) it's undeniable and irrefutable that Jesus died on Wednesday, 483 years 13 days after Daniel's prophecy, Daniel 9:25-26, just like the first Passover. And on the Hebrew calendar, the list of Wednesday that fall on 14 Nisan are:

                    9 April 27 (Julian)

                    5 April 30 (Julian)

                    20 March 37 (Julian)

With Daniel's prophecy to contend with, it could only have happened on 9 April 27 when Jesus died at the age of 32 and 5 month 28 days.

Of the 62 times σάββατον "Sabbaton" is translated, 8 times it's "[day] of the week" and  54 times as Sabbath. Every one of the 6 times, it is concerning Jesus' resurrection and once about fasting "twice a [week]" and bringing in the tithes on the "first [day] of the week". In Greek the word for "week" is εβδομάδα (evdomáda) and the word does NOT appear in the word of God.

Here is the proper translation of Matt 28.

Matthew 28:1
And on the eve of the Sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the Sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulcher (first means counting 49 Sabbath to pentecost)

Leviticus 23:15-17
You shall count from the next day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be completed: even to the next day after the seventh Sabbath you shall number fifty days; and you shall offer a new meal offering to Yahweh. You shall bring out of your habitations two loaves of bread for a wave offering made of two tenth parts of an ephah of fine flour. They shall be baked with yeast, for first fruits to Yahweh.

As with the truth, most dogma wins out and the truth is rejected. While some will say "what difference does it make" I say that the every jot and tittle means something and means what it says. Throw away your vain philosophies and doctrines of devils and return to the truth of the word of God. You cannot get it from any translation. With the advent of the internet, you have no excuse not to understand Greek and Hebrew with proper tools. Thanks to a lot of great dictionaries, you can through the Holy Spirit discern the truth. Study to show YOURSELF...

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew yourself approved unto God, a workman that need not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

We have the witness of all the disciples who were eye witness of the events and the witness of the Jews, and the witness of Pilate who did something contrary to their standard procedure instead of letting the dead hung on the Cross for days as proof that they are dead and as a deterrent to others. 

To the satisfaction of the Jews who on addition they asked Pilate to post guards outside the Tomb of Jesus Christ. 

The women were waiting for the end of the Sabbath to begin their preparation for the burial. 

They had to walk and carry things with them, which it was not allowed to do the Sabbath. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We have the witness of all the disciples who were eye witness of the events and the witness of the Jews, and the witness of Pilate who did something contrary to their standard procedure instead of letting the dead hung on the Cross for days as proof that they are dead and as a deterrent to others. 

To the satisfaction of the Jews who on addition they asked Pilate to post guards outside the Tomb of Jesus Christ. 

The women were waiting for the end of the Sabbath to begin their preparation for the burial. 

They had to walk and carry things with them, which it was not allowed to do the Sabbath. 

 

There are reams of this stuff out there if you care to research it. Do not take my word for it. Go check it out.

I will say no more except this as follows.

"MIA TON SABBATON

April 7, 2012

The key to understanding Yehoshua’s (Jesus’) resurrection day phrase from the inspired Word of God for the Greek text verses of Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, St. John 20:1,19; Acts 20:7, and 1 Corinthians 16:2 follows somewhat as ‘μια τῶν σαββατων’ which is transliterated as mia ton sabbaton and is translated to literally mean as; ‘one of the sabbaths’.

This phrase has been traditionally perceived, interpreted, and understood to read as ‘the first day of the week’ or less commonly as ‘the first of sabbaths’ in anidiomatic fashion where Hebrew weekdays are determined in a referenced order from one weekly Sabbath to the next weekly Sabbath. 

However, the resurrection day phrase the ‘first day of the week’ could have appeared in the Greek as;

‘πρώτο ημέρα του εβδομάδας’ of the original texts and transliterated as ‘prote hemera tis hebdomata’ but does NOT literally exist anywhere in any shape or form.

Consider specifically in all of the resurrection day passages stating the Koine Greek word ‘σαββατων which is transliterated as sabbaton where the literal English rendering is translated as ‘sabbaths’ and is plural of meaning in line with Greek Syntax rules.

In the key resurrection verse of Matthew 28:1 the original Koine Greek word ‘σαββατων’ appears twice in the same sentence being plural in a literal meaning at both instances, i.e. MTH 28:1.

“οψε δε σαββατων τη επιφωσκουση εις μιανσαββατων ηλθεν μαρια η μαγδαληνη και η αλλη μαρια θεωρησαι τον ταφον”
GREEK TEXT – STEPHENS (Editor) 1550 – TEXTUS RECEPTUS

The full sentence of Matthew 28:1 would render closely like;
“Late (οψε) but (δε) sabbaths (σαββατων) to the (τη) lighting-up (επιφωσκουση) into (εις) one of (μιαν) sabbaths (σαββατων) Mary (μαρια) Magdalene (μαγδαληνη) and (και ) the (η) other (αλλη) Mary (μαρια) observed (θεωρησαι) the (τον) sepulchre (ταφον).”

What could this possibly mean according to Greek Syntax where the contrasting ‘sabbaths’ in the very same sentence have a duality of definement with a co-existance between one and another?

Hence, Matthew 28:1 may be describing details in meaning like ; ‘Late (adverb) (post-after-end) (genitive of seperation) more-over (the annual Passover) sabbaths (plural) as it was lighting up (twi-lighting) on one (a cardinal number) of the (a partitive-genitive case function) sabbaths (plural)….’ etc.

Thus we are given a description of time pertaining to an interval when the Passover period was complete and had already finished. e.g. >>>

‘End (opse-adverbial) the 2 High sabbaths (Nisan 15 & 21  i.e. EX 12:16) of the Passover period onto a weekly sabbath ( 1 0f 7 ) or one sabbath from a ‘week’ of sabbaths within the 50 day counted duration between Passover (from the sheaf offering LEV 23:11,15,16) leading up to Pentecost.’

Thus, Yehoshua (Jesus) would have arrived at Bethany on Friday Nisan 8th being six days before the Passover on Thursday Nisan 14th A.D. 34. He was crucified on Wednesday Nisan 20th in the Passover preparation day (JHN 19:31) to Thursday Nisan 21 (Holy Convocation Day) and would resurrect 3 days and 3 nights later (Sign of Jonah/MTH 12:39, 40) on the weekly sabbath late afternoon of Saturday Nisan 23rd. This day being one integral sabbath in a week of sabbaths (7 weekly sabbaths) within the counted 50 day period leading up to Pentecost i.e. LEV 23:15.

* To clarify the original intended meaning furthermore behind the mia ton sabbaton phrase, you may view a Word Press article entitled;

A TREATISE ON THE LORD’S DAY

>>> http://pmary65.wordpress.com/

by The Consolidated Christian Commemoration

consolidatechristcommemorated@aim.com

* May God Bless You immensely with a sound Biblical understanding regarding the mia ton sabbaton resurrection phrase."

https://miatonsabbaton.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/the-resurrection-of-yehoshua-on-mia-ton-sabbaton/

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Justin the Sabbath day is the last day of the week. 

Have you not read Genesis. 

And do not try to sell Greek like you know, because you only know what others are telling you and not because you understand your self , that you have a knowledge, that's why you are pointing not to the Greeks but to non Greeks to tell you things about the Greek language.I take it that you are not Greek and you do not have educated Greek friends to discuss those things.

Ask a Greek lawyer, maybe he can help you, I did not say a Greek religious figure, but is not harm to trying. 

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I take it that you are not Greek and you do not have educated Greek friends to discuss those things.

Sorry but I do. Yet as I said. I do not wish to comment further. The information is readily available. It took me just a few years to finally figure it all out - on my own with nothing but Young's Literal. Then I started the research and it took another five years to understand it all. It is up to you if you wish to study it for yourself.

We have all the texts, Tanakh and NT and much in the way of translational tools as well. If I can do it, anyone can.

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      Gen 22:1  After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
      Gen 22:2  He said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

      So God "tests" Abraham and as a perfect picture of the coming sacrifice of God's only begotten Son (Yeshua - Jesus) God instructs Issac to go and sacrifice his son, Issac.  Where does he say to offer him?  On Moriah -- the exact location of the Temple Mount.

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