40,000 years of history? Man before Adam?

[johnthebaptist]

2 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Yawn. The women in question were interrupting the teachers, hence Paul's instructions.

Pauls said women can't speak in a church building (1 Corinthians 14:33-36). What is your scriptural basis for disobeying these words?

 

[Riverwalker]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

I've asked you twice if women speak in your church building. Yes or no?

First let us remove the word Building  that is an over reach. Something you added on the scripture because it did not make your point clear enough.

Do Women speak during the church service...No. And Neither do men. The preacher speaks

[teddyv]

19 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

THERE ARE NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATIONS

It says what it says, accept it or reject it,

 

You claim you don't interpret the Bible at all?

[Riverwalker]

3 minutes ago, teddyv said:

You claim you don't interpret the Bible at all?

I accept what the bible says. If the Holy Spirit wants to open it up to me, then He will.  But I cannot put together an Ikea entertainment center, how am I supposed to parse the word of God. 

 

John 14:But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Michael37]

11 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

Pauls said women can't speak in a church building (1 Corinthians 14:33-36). What is your scriptural basis for disobeying these words?

 

I don't allow women to exercise authority, government, or power over men in any ekklesia I am part of. That they do in some ekklesias is down to ignorance of Biblical doctrine and liberal theology.

 

[johnthebaptist]

11 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

First let us remove the word Building  that is an over reach. Something you added on the scripture because it did not make your point clear enough.

Do Women speak during the church service...No. And Neither do men. The preacher speaks

He wasn't just talking about speaking during a service - he was talking about speaking in a church. Read verse 35 again: 

If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
 

[johnthebaptist]

1 minute ago, Michael37 said:

I don't allow women to exercise authority, government, or power over men in any ekklesia I am part of. That they do in some ekklesias is down to ignorance of Biblical doctrine and liberal theology.

 

But Paul states women shouldn't speak in a church. Read verse 35 again:

If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

[Riverwalker]

10 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

He wasn't just talking about speaking during a service - he was talking about speaking in a church. Read verse 35 again: 

If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
 

In Church...not in a Church

that is what the word says.  They didn't have church buildings in Paul's time. They met in people's homes

What Paul is talking about here is not what we have come to identify as a building with pews and a steeple. but rather a gathering

Edited February 22, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Michael37]

1 minute ago, johnthebaptist said:

He wasn't just talking about speaking during a service - he was talking about speaking in a church.

The word "church" in the Bible if taken to mean a building rather a congregation, is a pagan concept. Check it out, why don't you all!

[Riverwalker]

There are parts of the bible I don't like

I absolutely couldn't get my head around 

James1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. 4 But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing. 

Be Happy when the stuff hits the fan?  What?

But we cannot disqualify scriptures because they offend our 21st century sensibilities.  Concepts from sexual perversion to the existence of hell, to God's judgment are all frowned upon by modern society

But it is the word of God, whether we like it or not,

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by Riverwalker