Do We Still Have A Sin Nature

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 4:59 PM, OneLight said:

And you do this 100% of the time?  If you are inclined to say yes, please show me in scripture where others have been as successful.I am in Christ 100 percent of the time and Therefore, I am redeemed from the law which is why it says in 1 Timothy 1:9, that the law is not made for a righteous man. And so I am totally 100 percent righteous due to the fact that my spirit is His workmanship. And this is also why it is written in 2 Corinthians 5:21, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him and this I am 100 percent of the time. You want examples from the Scriptures? How about everyone who was walking in Christ?

 

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 4:59 PM, OneLight said:

And you do this 100% of the time?  If you are inclined to say yes, please show me in scripture where others have been as successful.

Edited to add - besides Jesus.

I walk in the spirit 100 percent of the time and therefore, I am redeemed from the law which is why it says in 1 Timothy 1:9, that the law is not made for a righteous man. And so I am totally righteous due to the fact that my spirit is His workmanship 100 percent of the time. And this is also why it is written in 2 Corinthians 5:21, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him and I have that 100 percent of the time.You want examples from the Scriptures? How about everyone who walked in the spirit.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 5:08 PM, OneLight said:

Interesting you chose this verse.  It does read:

For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

It is a great verse, but consider what it does say.  "might become".  The word might alone proves that being totally righteous is not a given, but a goal to reach for, one that takes a lifetime to accomplish.

There are many other verses that say we are the righteous of God and probably the first 3 chapters of Ephesians will tell us that.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 5:21 PM, clancy said:

And you can do that all day and every day can you?

 

i think not!..

Sure I can. I'm in the spirit non-stop.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 5:37 PM, Arrabon said:

I think the qualifying word here is "MIGHT", in that being perfect and sinless is not a guarantee or a given.

Judging others by my life and actions, and 1st peter 4:18, "If it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved..."

The word difficulty in this context is a word actually meaning impossible on ones own.

There is no perfection or righteousness without being gifted by God Himself, and God through Paul says we must struggle and endure, and fight the good fight, and pick up our cross daily, and run the race of endurance from our hearts.

All of the above isn't about works in your context of your idea of works, but works with a heart for God is accepted by God, because we're not trying to EARN something we cant earn, it's a natural response to our love for Him and for others, if others are involved.

If your a legalist or rule keeper, or anyone else here is, this concept wouldn't be understood.

You seem to make it sound very "easy peasy" when it's a constant battle with the "DEVIL" of this earth.

I sometimes battle satan everyday for the constant temptations he brings to trip me up or entangle me.

Actually I'm glad I have these problems with sin because God describes my condition of sin, but He doesn't describe yours.

There are many verses that talk about the righteousness of God. Probably the first 3 chapters of Ephesians.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 6:09 PM, Waggles said:

You should pay much less attention to the teachings of men and learn from scripture itself through the Holy Spirit:

1John 1:5  This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 
1:6  If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 
1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 
1:8  If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 
1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 
1:10  If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 

so does Andrew Farley know something that John the Apostle does not? 

I did that. It's not my fault Farley sees what I see and can teach it well.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 8:17 PM, johnthebaptist said:

Until we learn to resist the temptation to sin, we must suffer the consequences of our sin. Discussing whether or not we are predisposed to committing sin seems a waste of time to me.

Okay. You believe you still have a sin nature.

[Peterlag]

On 3/12/2021 at 4:53 AM, Who me said:

1 john1:5 this is the message we heard from him and proclaim to you.

Verse 8 if We say we have no sin We device ourselves

Verse 9 if We confess our sin.

Verse 10 if We say we have no sin, We make him to be a liar.

Taken from the AV.

 

John is using inclusive language that say he , those he is writing to and anyone who reads his letter is a sinner, saved by grace, but still a sinner.

 

To say that in chapter 1 he switchs from talking to Christians to talking to non Christians is to tear scripture apart.

Romans is the same. Roman 10:9-10 is talking to Christians. Guys like the Apostle Paul was preaching to saints and non-saints in many of the epistles.

[Peterlag]

On 3/11/2021 at 3:38 PM, clancy said:

Are you actually saying, that you have never had an ungodly thought,since becoming born again?

We are all Gods children....none more special than the other.

No I'm saying I don't sin when I'm in Christ.

[Arrabon]

27 minutes ago, Peterlag said:

No I'm saying I don't sin when I'm in Christ.

@Peterlag

You're the only one.