Your closest friendnt Posted April 11, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,871 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,765 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, leah777 said: there is a very big different between what God can do, and what He, in His wisdom chooses to do. Jesus did not die on the the cross because God couldn't save Him. What do you mean? Can you please refrace it. God can not do anything he wants, he is acting in the wisdom of his plan to provide the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world because was not any other way. In the Lamb of God, in his wisdom he knew that only the Lamb of God has to died first and inherit Heaven. That's how Heaven was open to mankind. Thank you. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted April 11, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) either Matthew 19 v 26 is true, or is not. Jesus did not lie, so it must be true. 6 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: God can not do anything he wants, he is acting in the wisdom of his plan to provide the Lamb that takes away the sin of the world because was not any other way. His plan, His choice. He did what he wanted to do, could do. The death of Jesus was what He wanted to make His plan work. He could have abandoned His plan, He could have not saved us. He could originally have made a different plan, or changed His plan at any time. God chose to enact His plan. He was not made to do it bey someone else, or by His inability to make another plan. Who do you think made God have to follow this path? Can you not see it was 100% Gods choice. God is the driving force here. He was not forced into a corner not of His choosing, making Him act a certain way. God was and is in control. Edited April 11, 2021 by leah777 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 11, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,871 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,765 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, leah777 said: either Matthew 19 v 26 is true, or is not. Jesus did not lie, so it must be true. His plan, His choice. He did what he wanted to do, could do. The death of Jesus was what He wanted to make His plan work. He could have abandoned His plan, He could have not saved us. He could originally have made a different plan, or changed His plan at any time. God chose to enact His plan. He was not made to do it bey someone else, or by His inability to make another plan. Who do you think made God have to follow this path? Can you not see it was 100% Gods choice. God is the driving force here. He was not forced into a corner not of His choosing, making Him act a certain way. God was and is in control. I am not in disagreement with your posting, you are making sound that I disagree when I did not. This is what I said: That without the death of Jesus Christ for man to be in the presence of God without his permission it was death, even for the High Priest. Only the Lamb of God could be in his presence and lived because only Jesus had the Life of God in him, he was a man with the Life of God in him. Jesus Christ could be with Men and with God, only he can be the Messiah the Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted April 11, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.72 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 11, 2021 40 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: God can not do anything he wants, This is the point of disagreement. I do not accept that God cannot do what he wants. End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 11, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,871 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,765 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 11, 2021 1 minute ago, leah777 said: This is the point of disagreement. I do not accept that God cannot do what he wants. End. Can God make saved mankind without Jesus Christ or Jesus Christ death on the Cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 12, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,871 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,765 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Marathoner said: I'm with @leah777. There isn't a point in discussing this matter with you, my friend. I won't be responding to your comments from this point forward. Thanks. I have a Judge and his name is Jesus Christ who sits on the Heavenly Throne of David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted April 12, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,610 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,452 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted April 12, 2021 14 hours ago, Justin Adams said: We are the temple. No need for another. Anyhow, Ezekiel's 'temple talk' is like no other temple and has no roof. Allegory? Perhaps. Shalom, Justin Adams. The rooms had roofs, but as is popular among Middle Eastern construction, the house had a large courtyard within the construction of the outer walls. If you ever get a chance, go to Israel and investigate what you read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrobyter Posted April 12, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,610 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 2,452 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/28/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/28/1957 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: I have a Judge and his name is Jesus Christ who sits on the Heavenly Throne of David. Shalom, Your closest friendnt. Sorry, brother, but there is no "heavenly throne of David"; David's throne was HERE on this earth and shall be again when our Lord Yeshua` the Messiah to be King, that is, the One Anointed to be King, returns and BEGINS His Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted April 12, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,871 Content Per Day: 2.41 Reputation: 2,765 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Retrobyter said: Shalom, Your closest friendnt. Sorry, brother, but there is no "heavenly throne of David"; David's throne was HERE on this earth and shall be again when our Lord Yeshua` the Messiah to be King, that is, the One Anointed to be King, returns and BEGINS His Kingdom. Shalom Retrobyter, All authority is given to Jesus, in Heaven, on earth and under the earth. Jesus Christ rules from the Heavenly Throne as the Kings of Kings. This is a glory that God gave to him. Jesus Christ rules over the whole world from his Heavenly Throne, which God gave to him for evermore. Jesus rules over the Heavens and all the Earth. There is nothing that could be had that God did not give to him. Jesus Christ is all in all, over all. He has everything that has to be had. The Throne of David it was over the twelve tribes. It was one Kingdom during David's rain. That what the Throne of David signifies , it does away with the divisions. Jesus is a king over all the "kingdom of Israel"? and the world. The same king for both Israel and the rest of the world by Inheritance. He has it all. The earth is the Inheritance of Jesus Christ. Edited April 12, 2021 by Your closest friendnt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted April 12, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,606 Content Per Day: 3.95 Reputation: 7,797 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: He has it all. And the Kingdom of Yeshua is NOW. Not just a futurist pipe-dream. It is Now that He Rules and Reigns over all the COSMOS. Take a look at how many times in the scriptures it mentions 'kingdom'. "God's plan for enlarging His kingdom is so simple - one person telling another about the Savior. Yet we're busy and full of excuses. Just remember, someone's eternal destiny is at stake. The joy you'll have when you meet that person in heaven will far exceed any discomfort you felt in sharing the gospel." Charles Stanley 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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