The Law

[johnthebaptist]

35 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Who said anything about compulsion???

Before salvation, we sin because it is our nature to sin.  We are not compelled from outside, but impelled, by our corrupt nature, which produces corrupt desires, which lead to corrupt deeds.

You haven't shown me scripture that states we are BORN with a sin nature. You've only shown me scripture that says we all HAVE a sin nature. I don't disagree with that. We've all sinned, and therefore we've all developed a sin nature.

[Sower]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

If you observe sheep, you might see them strain under the fence for grass just out of reach...

All sheep?

The hungry ones. It's their nature.
Especially with a fence around. (do not eat)

Like the tree in the garden.

[johnthebaptist]

14 minutes ago, Sower said:

The hungry ones. It's their nature.
Especially with a fence around. (do not eat)

Like the tree in the garden.

If they are really hungry, why don't they eat the grass right below them?

[Sower]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

If they are really hungry, why don't they eat the grass right below them?

[johnthebaptist]

Just now, Sower said:

Maybe they are expressing a deep-seated rebellion brought on by rejection in their youth. 

[Sower]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

Maybe they are expressing a deep-seated rebellion brought on by rejection in their youth. 

Could be, but I think they're just hungry......

[johnthebaptist]

2 minutes ago, Sower said:

Could be, but I think they're just hungry......

I also see an inter-species element where two different types of mammals seem to be pretending the other isn't there, another sign of deep-seated rebellion.

[Sower]

Just now, johnthebaptist said:

I also see an inter-species element where two different types of mammals seem to be pretending the other isn't there, another sign of deep-seated rebellion.

John. They're just hungry, dude..........
 

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, johnthebaptist said:

You haven't shown me scripture that states we are BORN with a sin nature. You've only shown me scripture that says we all HAVE a sin nature. I don't disagree with that. We've all sinned, and therefore we've all developed a sin nature.

Hey JtB! Wake up. Don't forget about all these verse in parenthesis (good pun)

Rom 5:13-17  (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.  (14)  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.  (15)  But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.  (16)  And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.  (17)  For if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)
 

[johnthebaptist]

21 minutes ago, Sower said:

John. They're just hungry, dude..........
 

Sometimes an overactive appetite can be the result of rebellion brought on by rejection in one's childhood. Look how large the animal on the left is.