Bush ties Iraq to fight on terror

[Constant]

Bush ties Iraq to fight on terror

CRAWFORD, United States (AFP) - US President George W. Bush has repeated his belief that the war in Iraq and the war on terror are one and the same and vowed not to pull US troops from Iraq until the country is stable.

In his weekly radio address, Bush noted that Iraqi leaders are finishing a constitution despite recent violence against US troops and Iraqis alike.

"Iraqis are taking control of their country, building a free nation that can govern itself, sustain itself, and defend itself," he said. And we're helping Iraqis succeed."

"We're hunting down the terrorists and training the security forces of a free Iraq so Iraqis can defend their own country. And when that mission of defeating the terrorists in Iraq is complete, our troops will come home to a proud and grateful nation," he said.

More than 30 US soldiers have been killed in Iraq in the last two weeks, bringing the total since the start of the war to 1,840.

"Our mission in Iraq is tough because the enemy understands the stakes. The terrorists know that a free Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a crippling blow to their hateful ideology," Bush said. "And that is why our work in Iraq is a vital part of the war on terror we're waging around the world.

"This war on terror arrived on our shores on September the 11th, 2001. Since that day, the terrorists have continued to kill -- in Madrid, Istanbul, Jakarta, Casablanca, Riyadh, Bali, Baghdad, London, and elsewhere. The enemy remains determined to do more harm," he said.

The president said insurgents kill "indiscriminately, but with a clear purpose."

"They want to force free nations to retreat so they can topple governments across the Middle East, establish Taliban-like regimes in their place, and turn the Middle East into a launching pad for attacks against free people," he said.

Bush vowed to continue to fight terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world, "so we do not have to face them here at home."

"When terrorists spend their days and nights struggling to avoid death or capture, they're less capable of arming and training and plotting new attacks on America," he said.

[Constant]

Even if we "rid" of all the bad guys, there will always be more to replace them? Will this ever end? No.

[ted]

Will it end? Yes.

The Book of Revelation explains things pretty well!

t.

[Constant]

Will it end? Yes.

The Book of Revelation explains things pretty well!

t.

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I know. I have read that book so many times and, hmmm... interesting!!

[other one]

Hummmm.... Aahhhhh....... Oh never mind.......

[NITE OWL]

How do you defeat an enemy you can not see? How do you protect yourself and others against an enemy who are willing to use themselves as human bombs?

No, I think this war is going to last a very long time.

[NITE OWL]

How do you defeat an enemy you can not see? How do you protect yourself and others against an enemy who are willing to use themselves as human bombs?

No, I think this war is going to last a very long time.

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I agree with that, but it is far better to be aggressively going after the enemy rather than sitting back and playing defense all the time. Thanks to the war on terror, there are hundreds of terrorists being held prisoner rather than plotting their next strike. Regardless what the propagandists say, we are safer with the current policies than we would be simply treating terrorism as a police matter.

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I agree.

[apothanein kerdos]

How do you defeat an enemy you can not see? How do you protect yourself and others against an enemy who are willing to use themselves as human bombs?

No, I think this war is going to last a very long time.

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Take captives, torture them, and let some of them live and return them back to the terrorists. Or, torture them and send their mutilated bodies back to the terrorists or families with a note explaining this is what will occur to all terrorists. You take terrorists that have committed crimes by killing people and execute them in a very troublesome way infront of the public, so all others are discouraged from becomming terrorists. No man will want to die for Allah if he realizes he will be torn limb from limb prior to doing so.

Does it sound inhumane? Does it sound gross? Does it sound like it came from the mind of a sick man? I think it does, but unfortunately if you want to win this war you have to fight this war on their level. We can't hold to civility when we're fighting men who don't want to be civil. We can't wage a gentlemen's war with a bunch of evil men. You want to win the war in Iraq and discourage terrorism, then you fight it their way. You kidnap their leadesr and hold them for ransom. You chop off their leaders heads whilst video taping it, and send it to the terrorists. You make the price too high. You violate international law, you get rid of the treaties, and you act like barbarians until the opposition submits.

I am not saying it is right. I am not saying I agree with it. What I am saying is that it is the only way to defeat terrorists.

[NITE OWL]

Interesting.

[ted]

Take captives, torture them, and let some of them live and return them back to the terrorists. Or, torture them and send their mutilated bodies back to the terrorists or families with a note explaining this is what will occur to all terrorists. You take terrorists that have committed crimes by killing people and execute them in a very troublesome way infront of the public, so all others are discouraged from becomming terrorists. No man will want to die for Allah if he realizes he will be torn limb from limb prior to doing so.

Does it sound inhumane? Does it sound gross? Does it sound like it came from the mind of a sick man? I think it does, but unfortunately if you want to win this war you have to fight this war on their level. We can't hold to civility when we're fighting men who don't want to be civil. We can't wage a gentlemen's war with a bunch of evil men. You want to win the war in Iraq and discourage terrorism, then you fight it their way. You kidnap their leadesr and hold them for ransom. You chop off their leaders heads whilst video taping it, and send it to the terrorists. You make the price too high. You violate international law, you get rid of the treaties, and you act like barbarians until the opposition submits.

I am not saying it is right. I am not saying I agree with it. What I am saying is that it is the only way to defeat terrorists.

Nah, we must beat them on our terms, and with our techniques, not theirs.

War should only be a tool to be weilded when all else fails. If it's needed, then we must use it, but only as a way to initially get the upper hand.

Once done, I think we could be more effective by showing them we actually care about them. It's the common citizenry I'm talking about here. The more they see us helping rebuild their lives, the more they will see that the terrorists are harming them. Hopefully, that will give them the incentive to fight for their own safety and stability.

If anyone hasn't caught on yet, this is exactly what we are in the middle of doing right now.

t.