WayneB Posted May 6, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 18 hours ago, Who me said: coldcasechristianity has a lot to say about training instead of teaching. Thank you for the book recommendation. It sounds much like Lee Strobel's book, The Case for Christ. Josh McDowell also wrote a short but good book, More than a Carpenter. Then of coarse is C.S. Lewis' book, Mere Christianity. ALL great books written by former atheists that includes their personal testimonies on what drew them to Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whyme Posted May 6, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 82 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,300 Content Per Day: 1.97 Reputation: 1,125 Days Won: 10 Joined: 02/16/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted May 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, WayneB said: Thank you for the book recommendation. It sounds much like Lee Strobel's book, The Case for Christ. Josh McDowell also wrote a short but good book, More than a Carpenter. Then of coarse is C.S. Lewis' book, Mere Christianity. ALL great books written by former atheists that includes their personal testimonies on what drew them to Jesus Christ. What were their reasons for turning to Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted May 6, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, Whyme said: What were their reasons for turning to Christ? It’s their testimonies. Lee Strobel set out to prove his wife was taken in by a fantasy when she became a Christian. The evidence led him in a direction he didn’t want to go. Regardless, read their books if you’re truly interested. I’ll order Cold Case Christianity. Looks interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted May 6, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 52 minutes ago, WayneB said: It’s their testimonies. Lee Strobel set out to prove his wife was taken in by a fantasy when she became a Christian. The evidence led him in a direction he didn’t want to go. Regardless, read their books if you’re truly interested. I’ll order Cold Case Christianity. Looks interesting. By the way Whyme, I ordered the book you recommended.and noticed endorsements by both Lee Strobel and Josh McDowell. "Cold-Case Christianity is a fantastic book. I wish I had this resource when I first examined the Christian faith. It would have answered many of my questions and helped set me on the track to truth." (Josh McDowell, Speaker and author of Evidence that Demands A Verdict) "It's a fascinating process, with Jim drawing on his quarter century of police experience to explain how and why the evidence of history decisively tips the scales in favor of Christianity." (Lee Strobel, Author of The Case for Christ and The Case For Faith) When you commented, you hadn’t seen the 17 page teaching / discipleship training outline. When I was active in the ministry years ago, we could upload PDFs. If you were able read through it, you’ll see I did address the importance of proper training in the art of apologetics. once again, thank you for your comments and book recommendation. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure of eighty Posted October 9, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,558 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 872 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 5:55 AM, Who me said: Something that I have never heard anyone teach on is that this passage refers to soldiers in the line of battle. How often would any professional army like the Roman legions put raw recruits into the line of battle. The passage is referring to " trained " soldiers. How does the local church train it's Christians? People often point at David fighting Goliath as an example, but David was an expert in the use of a sling, how many Christians are expert in handling the Bible, and he had not only learnt how to fight but had fought a bear and a lion. What is the equivalent for Christians today volunteering to serve God? We train the way paul describes by buffetting our flesh. Self denial seems easy but its so incredibly hard. We all will have trials tailored to our weakness/ strengths so what seems so obvious and easy to overcome for us that another struggles with wont be the same test we get. It'll be something that's a stumbling block for us in particular. Whether its lust, addiction, childhood trauma or what have you. These things are enough and the tests and trials we go through are enough and require the armor of God. I feel the training hints at becoming more mature in faith and seasoned so we can we can walk into new levels of Christ. Jesus spoke in parables. Not everything is always literal. You dont have to be a marine or soldier to use the armor of God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure of eighty Posted October 9, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,558 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 872 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 9, 2021 the attachment is unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted October 9, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Figure of eighty said: We train the way paul describes by buffetting our flesh Actually we train by learning about what it is we believe so we can give a reason for our faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve morrow Posted March 20, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,045 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 368 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/15/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1955 Share Posted March 20, 2022 WHO IS IT THAT IS SUFFICIENT FOR US EPHESIANS 6:15 and your feet shod with the preparation ---of the gospel of peace--- 1 PETER 1:25 but the word of THE LORD endureth forever ---and this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you ACTS 20:24 but none of these things move me neither count I my life dear unto me so that I might finish my course with joy ---and the ministry which I have received of --THE LORD JESUS-- to testify the gospel -- of the grace of GOD--- TITUS 2:11 ---for the grace of GOD-- that bringeth salvation -- hath appeared to all men--- --2:12-- TEACHING US --- that denying ---ungodliness--and worldly lusts--- we should live soberly -- righteously -- and godly -- IN THIS PRESENT WORLD--- 1 TIMOTHY 6:3 ---IF ANY MAN--- teach otherwise and consent not to wholesome words ---even the words of our LORD JESUS CHRIST--- and to the doctrine which is according to godliness --- --6:4-- he is proud doting about questions and strifes of words whereof cometh envy strife railings and evil surmisings 2 PETER 1:2 ---GRACE AND PEACE--- be multiplied unto you through the ---the knowledge of GOD and of JESUS OUR LORD--- --1:3-- according as HIS divine power --HATH GIVEN-- unto us all things that pertain unto life ---and godliness--- through the knowledge -- of HIM -- that hath called us to glory and virtue--- *******2 TIMOTHY 2:16 but shun profane and vain babbling for they will increase unto more --ungodliness******* TITUS 1:1 paul a servant of GOD and an apostle of JESUS CHRIST according to the faith of GODS elect ---and the acknowledging of the truth -- which is after godliness--- 1 TIMOTHY 6:6 ---but godliness with contentment is great gain--- COLOSSIANS 2:8 ---BEWARE lest any man---spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit ---after the tradition of men -- after the rudiments of the world -- and not after CHRIST--- JOHN 7:17 JESUS answered them and said ---MY doctrine is not mine but HIS that sent ME--- --7:18-- he that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory --- but he that seeketh HIS glory that sent him the same is true -- and no --unrighteousness-- is in him ISAIAH 42:8 --I AM THE LORD THAT IS MY NAME-- and MY glory will I not give to another neither MY praise to graven images PROVERBS 8:7 for MY mouth shall speak truth and wickedness is an abomination to MY lips --8:8-- all the words of MY mouth are in righteousness there is nothing froward or perverse in them ROMANS 5:21 that as sin hath reigned unto death even so might ---grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by ---JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD--- LUKE 19:27 but those mine enemies ---which would not that I should reign over them--- bring hither and slay them before ME EPHESIANS 6:17 and take the helmet of salvation ---and the sword of the spirit --- which is the word of GOD--- JOHN 6:63 it is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profiteth nothing ---the words that --I speak-- unto you they are spirit --- and they are life--- 2 CORINTHIANS 12:9 and HE said unto me --MY grace is --sufficient for thee-- for MY strength is made perfect in weakness-- most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities that the power of CHRIST may rest upon me 2 CORITHIANS 3:5 not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves ---but our sufficiency is of GOD--- REVELATION 22:18 for I testify unto everyman that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book --IF-- any man shall add unto these things ---GOD shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book--- --22:19-- and --IF ANY MAN-- shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy ---GOD shall take his part ---OUT OF THE BOOK--- of life and out of the holy city and from the things which are written in this book 2 JOHN 1:9 whosoever transgresseth and abideth not ---in the doctrine of CHRIST--- hath not GOD he that abideth in the doctrine of CHRIST ---he hath both THE FATHER AND THE SON--- LOVING THE LORD JESUS CHRIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking the lost Posted March 25, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 209 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 5/4/2021 at 6:33 AM, Hopefully said: I really love this verse and it even what I based my profile picture here on. We are in spiritual warfare and this is indeed our amor that we need to put on daily. Actully we must never take the armor off. It is the way. Night time is a time many are vurnable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopefully Posted March 25, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,323 Content Per Day: 1.07 Reputation: 1,465 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/07/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted March 25, 2022 9 hours ago, seeking the lost said: Actully we must never take the armor off. It is the way. Night time is a time many are vurnable. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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