Nobody Took Jesus' Life - He Gave it.

[Walter and Deborah]

24 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus died for the forgiveness of our sins.

Don't you believe that? 

He died from the Crusificton, from his nailing on the Cross. 

His blood was shed on the Cross. 

What do you think it happens when they drive nails to someone hands and feet, blood will poor out.

(Don't you believe that Jesus Christ was conceived and grew or nine months in Mary's womb beginning with being a fetus, going through the full circle of a human in the womb.)

The same thing happened to Jesus Christ he was executed to die by crisificton. 

That includes that the cause of death is from various reasons, because he was torture before he was nailed on the Cross. 

And we see him talking to his disciples from the Cross and to the thief on the other Cross and to the Roman's in charge asking for water. 

While he was nailed on the Cross, that is telling us that he was still alive when they perched his hands and his feet.

Don't you know that man's Spirit Man does not remained in his dead body but leaves when the body dies. 

He had the power to defend himself but he did not use it to saved himself. 

Before the foundation of the world the plan was to let them kill him by Crisificton, to be the Lamb of God who will die for the forgiveness of our sins that includes that his Father will not intervene to Saved him and Jesus Christ will not used his powers to Saved himself.

They Kill him by Crisificton. 

Jesus Christ said that the Priest will give him to Judgement and he will be condemned to be punished with the lashes and with nailing to the Cross. 

Amen, Isaiah 53:10-12 ¹⁰Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. ¹¹He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. ¹²Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

[Michael37]

On 5/13/2021 at 2:46 AM, Riverwalker said:

Jesus did die on the cross, but He did not die from Crucifixion. (speaking of physical death)

His bones were not broken, his heart did not fail, He did not die of asphyxiation and He did not bleed out.  When He had completed the work of the cross he cried out in a LOUD voice (still with energy and air) and "gave up" His spirit

Matthew 27: 50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud [agonized] voice, and gave up His spirit [voluntarily, sovereignly dismissing and releasing His spirit from His body in submission to His Father’s plan] - Amplified

When I saw this last night I looked a little further and found this commentary from Adam Clarke

Not one to take the words of even the wisest of men ( and I am unfamiliar with this person) I looked further remembering something Jesus had said

John 10:17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

While this does not at all mitigate the horribleness of crucifixion, it is good to know that Jesus began His victory over death by  determining his own.

Thank you Lord Jesus for what you did for us.

The Crucifixion Of Christ Was Not Satan's Plan - Page 2 - General Discussion - Worthy Christian Forums

On 9/28/2019 at 2:43 PM, Michael37 said:

Yes, we see the work of Satan to tempt Jesus when He was in the wilderness for 40 days. The fourth time Jesus says "Get thee hence, Satan", and His response is much the same when temptation comes through Peter seeking to dissuade Him from the events mentioned that include His death. This time Jesus says, "Get thee behind Me, Satan."  

Some have questioned how God could die, getting confused over the relationship of the Father, Son , and Holy Spirit, and offering instead the idea that because Jesus is God, and God is eternal and therefore cannot die, that Jesus didn't really die on the Cross. 

The big problem with that unbiblical theory is that if Jesus didn't really die then no all sufficient, perpetual, providential sacrifice for our sin has been made.

I have stood my ground on this because the whole point of the incarnation of God in the Person of Christ was to die for the sins of the world.

Heb 9:15-16
(15)  And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
(16)  For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

 

[appy]

On 5/12/2021 at 7:46 AM, Riverwalker said:

Jesus did die on the cross, but He did not die from Crucifixion. (speaking of physical death)

The covenant in the Old Testament began with and became effective by Blood. The new covenant in the New Testament began also by blood. The bible teaches us that for the wages of sin, death is required. So sin has to be atoned for by the death of something or Somebody. An atonement biblically speaking is a payment, made on behalf of the one who has sinned in order to redeem him from the penalty of his sins. This payment could not be made in any other way than through the shedding of blood.  Blood proved that a death had occurred.  Jesus' blood was the price necessary for the New Covenant to be put into effect. Blood has to be shed because the punishment for sin is death

Without the shedding of blood, there can be no forgiveness of sins. (Hebrews 9:22)  The forgiveness of our sins is tied directly to the blood that Christ shed on the cross. The atonement made by Christ is the only way out of the penalty of sin.

Exodus 24:8
So Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said, "This is the blood of the covenant that the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words."

Leviticus 1711
  For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life

Luke 20:22
In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you.

Matthew 26:28
This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Hebrews 9:14
How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death

Hebrews 9:22
In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

 

[Littlelambseativy]

He died on the cross, after the sin of the world, past, present and future was placed on Him…He sacrificed His life for that sin, thus He chose when to breathe His last breathe and surrendered His Spirit to the Father. He fulfilled the plan of salvation laid out by God the Father, and the Son before the world was created. But, He was human enough that He asked the Father if the cup of suffering for all mankind’s sin could be passed from Him, yet He surrendered His will to the Father, died, and rose victorious over death, hell and Satan, so we might have eternal life if we accept Him and His sacrifice in our place.