JOSEPHUS

[Guest kingdombrat]

Since a few here have put a lot of stock into the written accounts of Josephus, who is best known as being a Traitor to his own Troops he led, and then to his own people of Israel.   Who, when invaded by Rome during the 70 A.D. Destruction, is said to give a written eye witness account.   I wonder if more people also believe in what he wrote about "OUR" Lord and Savior Christ Yeshua/Jesus.

 

***NOW, before you read past this point, this is not a Race/Bias/Creed viewpoint***

***I really am [only] interested in who believes this account of Jesus written by Josephus***

 

“At that time also there appeared a certain man of magic power, if it be meet to call him a man, [whose name is Jesus], whom [certain] Greeks call a son of [a] God, but his disciples [call] the true prophet. He was a man of simple appearance, mature age, black-skinned (melagchrous), short growth, three cubits tall, hunchbacked, prognathous (lit. ‘with a long face’ [macroprosopos]), a long nose, eyebrows meeting above the nose, with scanty [curly] hair, but having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazaraeans, with an undeveloped beard.”

[Riverwalker]

And so when faced with a source that threatens your stance, you attack, malign and besmirch the source.

That is very telling

 

Josephus is not scripture and he is not infallible.....but he is one of the few extra biblical sources that backs up our history and He has been found to be credible for 2000 years

 

Edited May 12, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, Riverwalker said:

And so when faced with a source that threatens your stance, you attack, malign and besmirch the source.

That is very telling

Am I attacking it?

 

Where am I specifically attacking it at?

[Riverwalker]

9 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

Josephus is not scripture and he is not infallible.....but he is one of the few extra biblical sources that backs up our history and He has been found to be credible for 2000 years

I added that to my previous post but I don't think you saw it

Your statement "josephus, who is best known as being a Traitor to his own Troops he led, and then to his own people of Israel." Is an attack and an attempt to besmirch Josephus and His credibility

 

The People of God have been notorious for doing evil

The writer of of many Psalms killed the husband of a woman he lusted after

The writer of Proverbs had 1000 wives and concubines

Paul was a murderer of Christians

Peter denied Christ

Abraham doubted

Moses got a little too full of himself

and each of these had a life that contributed greatly to our understanding of God

Will you so easily dismiss them?

Edited May 12, 2021 by Riverwalker

[Guest kingdombrat]

2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

I added that to my previous post but I don't think you saw it

Your statement "josephus, who is best known as being a Traitor to his own Troops he led, and then to his own people of Israel." Is an attack and an attempt to besmirch Josephus and His credibility

 

The People of God have been notorious for doing evil

The writer of of many Psalms killed the husband of a woman he lusted after

The writer of Proverbs had 1000 wives and concubines

Paul was a murderer of Christians

Peter denied Christ

Abraham doubted

Moses got a little too full of himself

and each of these had a life that contributed greatly to our understanding of God

Will you so easily dismiss them?

And Josephus is well known for being a Roman Propaganda Puppet.   So which part is truth and which is Propaganda?

[Riverwalker]

Just now, kingdombrat said:

And Josephus is well known for being a Roman Propaganda Puppet.   So which part is truth and which is Propaganda?

You didn't answer my question

[Guest kingdombrat]

6 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

You didn't answer my question

But unlike the examples you gave, Jesephus is known for this nice bit of enlightenment: Josephus wrote all of the Jews serve a defeated god and are naturally hostile to Roman civilization

[Riverwalker]

1 minute ago, kingdombrat said:

But unlike the examples you gave, Jesephus is known for this nice bit of enlightenment: Josephus wrote all of the Jews serve a defeated god and are naturally hostile to Roman civilization

Well the Jews kind of did get left behind, at least the ones who did not follow into Christianity.  Lets face it since the Crucifixion they have had a pretty hard go of it. From an outsiders perspective it might be considered that God abandoned them

 

But what are you trying to achieve here?

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, Riverwalker said:

Well the Jews kind of did get left behind, at least the ones who did not follow into Christianity.  Lets face it since the Crucifixion they have had a pretty hard go of it. From an outsiders perspective it might be considered that God abandoned them

 

But what are you trying to achieve here?

Josephus is neither Christian.   Wouldn't his views be tainted since he did not believe in God?

[Guest kingdombrat]

The God of the Jews is the God of Abraham.   Isn't that OUR GOD?