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9 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

I can’t account for all 297, no.

You cannot account for any.

By the way, the VAERS system you deny is reported by the same hospitals, doctors and you claim to trust.  It's not as if a sub sandwich shop is doing the reporting.

Vaccines have killed many, but deny it if you must.   Good night.


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24 minutes ago, Sparks said:

By the way, the VAERS system you deny is reported by the same hospitals, doctors and you claim to trust.

VAERS is self-reporting. As I’ve mentioned, I’ve participated in it. No one is confirming any of the information I’ve submitted.

Please check this link - https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2LV0NY

 


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9 hours ago, one.opinion said:

VAERS is self-reporting. As I’ve mentioned, I’ve participated in it.

Every medical record is self-reported by doctors, nurses, and medical personnel and they must do so by law.  From the VAERS database FAQ:

Healthcare providers are required by law to report to VAERS:

  • Any adverse event listed in the VAERS Table of Reportable Events Following Vaccination that occurs within the specified time period after vaccination.
  • An adverse event listed by the vaccine manufacturer as a contraindication to further doses of the vaccine.
9 hours ago, one.opinion said:

VAERS is self-reporting. As I’ve mentioned, I’ve participated in it. No one is confirming any of the information I’ve submitted.

Something tells me that things you have submitted have never included a death. 

From the database site:

VAERS data available to the public include only the initial report data to VAERS. Updated data which contains data from medical records and corrections reported during follow up are used by the government for analysis.


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49 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Every medical record is self-reported by doctors, nurses, and medical personnel and they must do so by law.

Right, 

 

50 minutes ago, Sparks said:

VAERS data available to the public include only the initial report data to VAERS. Updated data which contains data from medical records and corrections reported during follow up are used by the government for analysis.

Exactly - the data are analyzed. What you are missing is that self-reports may be followed up, but are not necessarily confirmed.

Did you happen to read the article I posted last night?


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18 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Did you happen to read the article I posted last night?

No.   I don't chase down links, nor do I debate links and the source you trust is called Reuters and is a fake news source.

If you think there have been no deaths by these mRNA vaccines, I don't know how to help you. 


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1 hour ago, Sparks said:

If you think there have been no deaths by these mRNA vaccines, I don't know how to help you. 

I never made that claim. However, I am extremely confident that the actual number of deaths directly linked to the vaccine is much closer to zero than 6,000.

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

I don't chase down links

I should have known that clicking on a link and reading something from a different viewpoint was asking too much. I was hoping you would at least try to read something with an open mind. You won’t try to understand anything I write, so I was hoping you would try something else. It was a small hope, but I still think it was worth a shot.

From the CDC website:

DISCLAIMER:  

VAERS accepts reports of adverse events and reactions that occur following vaccination. Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to VAERS. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Most reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.

 

 


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2 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

I never made that claim. However, I am extremely confident that the actual number of deaths directly linked to the vaccine is much closer to zero than 6,000.

So, almost 6,000 reports of fake deaths?  Yeah, right.

2 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

I should have known that clicking on a link and reading something from a different viewpoint was asking too much. I was hoping you would at least try to read something with an open mind. You won’t try to understand anything I write, so I was hoping you would try something else. It was a small hope, but I still think it was worth a shot.

You could apply this very statement to yourself on another thread where you won't investigate Exegesis, although I didn't provide a link for you to click giving you the complete freedom to choose one of your own.

I have caught Reuters in so many lies, they are not a reliable source.   While I do understand the limitations of VAERS, I think the vaccines have killed many, many people. 


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35 minutes ago, Sparks said:

You could apply this very statement to yourself on another thread where you won't investigate Exegesis, although I didn't provide a link for you to click giving you the complete freedom to choose one of your own.

Yes, and last week, after I watched 30 minutes of video of congressional hearings and read eleven different articles and still couldn’t find the information you insisted was there, you accused me of doing no research. You won’t even open a link I set directly in front of you. You argue in bad faith.

38 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I have caught Reuters in so many lies, they are not a reliable source.

Unsurprisingly, you make another bold statement without supplying any evidence. I am certain they have made errors. I would have to see evidence that they lied. Reuters is unimportant to this thread. What is important is your habit of making statements that you have no intention of actually supporting.

In any case, what I quoted most recently was from the CDC website - that is responsible for the VAERS reporting system.

43 minutes ago, Sparks said:

While I do understand the limitations of VAERS, I think the vaccines have killed many, many people. 

And your modus operandi continues. You have no evidence for this claim. I should give you credit for at least stating it as your opinion, and not fact. However, even with that caveat, it would make good sense to support your though process with relevant facts and information. Remember, this is what people call evidence.

 


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6 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Yes, and last week, after I watched 30 minutes of video of congressional hearings and read eleven different articles and still couldn’t find the information you insisted was there, you accused me of doing no research. You won’t even open a link I set directly in front of you. You argue in bad faith.

You were playing a game pretending that you could not use a search engine, then looked for the wrong topic in the articles you searched. 

It's the reason I don't fall for your games now.


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4 minutes ago, Sparks said:

It's the reason I don't fall for your games now.

Ah good, we have progress. We have moved past the point where you have given up futile attempts to defend your earlier claims and have now moved on to new and unrelated things to criticize.

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