TheBlade Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 74 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,269 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,161 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Great questions.. There are "names" (Not Jesus) posted here that are no where in the Torah yet does not stop anyone from still using them. The name Jesus.. yeah no different then Yeshua. Blind see deaf hear dead rise at the name of JESUS or Yeshua. Yes Jesus on the earth was born Jewish. What He was is who He has always been. There are not Jews, Greek.. we know the verse. That new man that new creation that GOD made is not born of this world. He has never once had to correct anyone about His name. Were the ones making something out of nothing. Yes a book from a Jewish people yet was always for the world. Knowing Hebrew, Greek you name it, you can still be blind. It's not mans word. That sweet Holy Spirit.. yeah He knows what He meant when it was written through man. Why we miss it so many times. We keep looking at the natural not the supernatural. Its been thousands of years and man still knows the real truth Oh that part is still true today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,738 Content Per Day: 2.44 Reputation: 8,551 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted August 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Ancient said: LOL you have totally missed the point. If they had the gal to do this what else have they done? Shalom friend So i shall take by your response that you are unable to answer that question? So, can you list any changes that does actually change the message of the text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.91 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, missmuffet said: Why would the Bible lie to us? If the Bible says His name is Jesus then it is Jesus. The Holy Scripture doesn't lie. Nevertheless, it was translated and, unfortunately, instead of keeping the original name (as they do with the name of the artists, politicians and those who media look on important), they translated the name of our Messiah. Besides, there is something that is calling my attention lately. The prophecy said that our Messiah should call: Immanuel (Mat 1:23): Isa 7:14 -> "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." How to explain this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.53 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2021 8And it will penetrate into Judah, overflowing as it passes through, up to the neck it will reach; and the tips of his wings will fill the breadth of your land, Immanuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 793 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 890 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Ancient said: Most English translations relied heavily on the Greek text. All the writers of the NT were Hebrew people. Who lived and spoke in a Hebrew culture in Jerusalem and Galilee and all between. Yes I understand they also spoke Aramaic and some like Paul Greek also. Latin has some influence but originally translation relied heavily on Greek. As Latin cam along later. Shalom Friend The Gospel was brought to England by monks from Rome in the 6th century. They were using the Latin translation of the Bible - this was hundreds of years before the first English translation direct from Hebrew and Greek. By then, people had got used to the Latin versions of the names - and so they stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,608 Content Per Day: 3.90 Reputation: 7,810 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deborah_ said: The Gospel was brought to England by monks from Rome in the 6th century. They were using the Latin translation of the Bible - this was hundreds of years before the first English translation direct from Hebrew and Greek. By then, people had got used to the Latin versions of the names - and so they stuck. Yes, and Jerome got quite a few translational errors. Check out the famous paintings with Moses having horns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 9,608 Content Per Day: 3.90 Reputation: 7,810 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Ancient said: All the writers of the NT were Hebrew people Luke was a gentile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy Roesch Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 233 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/03/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/09/1960 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I believe Jesus has MANY names.... Quote Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Von Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1,265 Topics Per Day: 0.44 Content Count: 2,637 Content Per Day: 0.91 Reputation: 760 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/06/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/04/1972 Share Posted August 9, 2021 53 minutes ago, Tammy Roesch said: I believe Jesus has MANY names.... I suppose that you mean that Jesus has many TITLES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appy Posted August 9, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Leonardo Von said: The Holy Scripture doesn't lie. Nevertheless, it was translated and, unfortunately, instead of keeping the original name (as they do with the name of the artists, politicians and those who media look on important), they translated the name of our Messiah. Besides, there is something that is calling my attention lately. The prophecy said that our Messiah should call: Immanuel (Mat 1:23): Isa 7:14 -> "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." How to explain this? missmuffet was asking a rhetorical question to make a point, rather than asking to get an answer. And I think that her point in this thread is very valid, considering the claim by the opster that scripture has been manipulated and is all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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